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Originally Posted by whell
I don't agree with Kerry about much of anything, but he's got this one right.
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The fact that he doesn't want to be dragged into a disagreement between the CIA and FBI is to his credit. It doesn't mean, one way or the other, whether Russia did or didn't target Trump specifically. Moreover, it doesn't matter. The Russians hacked our election in a manner that benefited Trump and different intelligence agencies have different beliefs as to how to apportion their motives between disruption and helping Trump. Regardless, the hacks benefited Trump whether or not it was Russia's primary motive.
Your argument can be summed up as
"There's a material difference between the Russians hacking in a manner that solely helped Trump and Russia hacking in a way intended to solely help Trump.
If they didn't intend to help Trump, they sure went about it in a funny way.
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Originally Posted by whell
So, once again, the NY Times report that the Russians succeeded in hacking both the DNC and the RNC but only released the emails they pulled from the DNC and sat on the emails they pulled from the RNC in an effort to promote Trump is FAKE NEWS!
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This doesn't negate that fact that the Times
truthfully reported on what the CIA told them. Reporting what the CIA tells you they believe to be true isn't fake news. It's news.
What's interesting is that fake news hit the headlines when an idiot believed the same fake news as Trump's National Security Advisor (and his son on Trump's transition team) believed and shot up a pizza parlor in the days before it is revealed that the intelligence community believed the Russians hacked the election in a manner that was clearly favorable to Trump (and which the CIA, alone among them, assessed was primarily to help Trump and not just disrupt the election without regard to who benefited).
In order to spin these two negative events in their favor, the GOP conflates one with the other - "Forget Flynn's tweet on Hillary's child sex ring. The real fake news are the reports saying the Russians hacked the election." You've been a willing accomplice to the charade, whether deliberate or as a result of childish gullibility. This shows you're either disingenuous or an idiot (or possibly a disingenuous idiot).