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Originally Posted by 4-2-7
I do understand you can't have your cake and eat it too.
So when the infringing is in line with your view it's ok?
But when it's someone elses view then the laws should be changed to fall in line with you.
"What about the person who wants contraception and can't get it because the company they work for won't offer it?"
Change jobs is a valid option.
As far as I know this is fairly cheap and should not be slipped into a law knowing it's going against the majority of the population.
I want a ferrari and I can't get it.
What happened to the responsibility of oneself, to provide for ones own needs and wants.
I have struggled my whole life to provided for myself and never asked for anyone to do it for me. This is a huge difference in my own personal feeling and ideology than I see from others. You will never be able to change my mined on this. I would rather die than be indebted to others and mooching off the sweat of others backs.
Im sure with the good will of most Americans a Private entity could step in. Run on private donation alone and provide contraception to every woman and man in this country.
This would not infringe on others rights and would be done because people wanted to do it.
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I don't think that insurance should be work related to begin with, but since it is, employers are just a medium to give workers the coverage the workers need, not necessarily what the employer feels is within their moral scope.
Are you trying to propose to me that the wealthy get that way without relying on the labor of others? For anyone to be an employer they need to have employees. Left up to their own devices many will pay as little and as few benefits as they can. I have no problem with people getting wealthy. My problem comes when they forget how they got that way. That makes me think that most large corporations are indebted to their employees and are mooching off the sweat of others backs.
Planned parenthood is one such organization you describe. Look at the shit they take from the right because they are not a pro-life organization. How many private organizations are going to make themselves a political target to provide contraception.
I am not trying to get you to agree with my position. I am not even sure I have a strong position on a lot of this. I am just pointing out the other side to arguments that go on, and on, and on that have extremists on both sides fighting so hard that the issues never get resolved. Let's get to the meat still left on the bone and compromise a little bit as a nation. We the little people aren't the ones fighting, we are just taking on the fallout. Obama may end up being the best or worst Presdent in our nations history. I don't really give a shit either way, but at least he is doing SOMETHING in this department.