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Originally Posted by epifanatic
This is a sample of what the founding fathers thought about Christianity.
Benjamin Franklin: "I wish it (Christianity) were more productive of good works ... I mean real good works ... not holy-day keeping, sermon-hearing ... or making long prayers, filled with flatteries and compliments despised by wise men, and much less capable of pleasing the Deity."
"Lighthouses are more helpful than churches."
John Adams: "The divinity of Jesus is made a convenient cover for absurdity."
James Madison: "During almost fifteen centuries has the legal establishment of Christianity been on trial. What has been its fruits? More or less, in all places, pride and indolence in the clergy; ignorance and servility in the laity; in both, superstition, bigotry, and persecution."
"Religious bondage shackles and debilitates the mind and unfits it for every noble enterprise."
Thomas Jefferson: "There is not one redeeming feature in our superstition of Christianity. It has made one half the world fools, and the other half hypocrites."
"Millions of innocent men, women, and children, since the introduction of Christianity, have been burned, tortured, fined, and imprisoned, yet we have not advanced one inch toward uniformity.”
"Christianity is the most perverted system that ever shone on man."
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Outside of Jefferson, who btw considered the Federal Government FORIEGN (good luck SS let alone healthcare) and would've supported the teabaggers, those talk about ORGANIZED religion, not Christianity itself.
There was a good reason they wanted this:
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."
it's the same reason it's together with free speech and free press - government control of religion interferes with free expression.
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Originally Posted by merrylander
ROTFLMAO
A christian nation? Best one I have heard all day.
Jesus said ". . .and the second is like unto it, thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself."
Maybe I can get them to point the Hubble down here to see if it can observe much of this neighbourly loving, unless maybe it is his neighbour's wife.  |
Very sad and very true. I'm afraid it was always thus.
Who's the new guy?
Pete