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Originally Posted by Independent
Basically what is being advocated here is Socialism, is it not?
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Actually, no. I can see why you're confused because socialism also aims to modify income for the purpose of social egality. However, I believe that what we're talking about predates socialism. It's one of the fundamental values of western civilization. As Jesus says in Luke 12:41, "From everyone to whom much has been given, much will be required; and from the one to whom much has been entrusted, even more will be demanded."
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Originally Posted by Independent
Doesn't everyone in this country, outside of inheritence (I don't count this because I certainly won't inherit anything), start out with the same opportunities as anybody else?
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Are you saying that inherited wealth is the only benefit to growing up wealthy and that other than that, economic conditions have no impact on equality of opportunity? I'd say that's silly on face.
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Originally Posted by Independent
So, because I work harder, or the right opportunities fall my way, or I win the lottery, I'm supposed to share what I have, over-and-above a proportionate tax, to someone who might not be as motivated, or as lucky as I am? That should be my choice to do, not mandated.
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No. I make no aspersions as to the work ethic or luck of anyone involved. I'm saying that I think the moneyed should bear a disproportionate amount of the cost of government - that is to say holding the roof up on civilization and maintaining the system that's allowed them to become successful. It's a burden I'm sure many in a lesser position would gladly trade for.
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Originally Posted by Independent
Also, there are plenty of people out there who would love to make $24,000 a year, and would live a happy life if they did. I know a few of them myself. Who are you, or anyone else for that matter, to say that $24,000 a year makes a person poor compared to someone who makes $240,000 a year? People need to live within their means no matter how much they make, and if they can do that, hey, this is America, life will be good.
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Dude, who am I to say that a person who say that a person is poor compared to somebody who makes $240,000 a year? I CAN DO BASIC MATH!!!
Or are you talking about "poverty of the spirit" or some such pap? Take a trip to the poorest part of your town and tell me if you see them behaving with any quiet nobility compared to the ones in the McBurbs. By and large, you won't. Poverty breeds the desperation that leads men to set aside their better moral instincts.
Who am I to say? Well, I'm a guy who's never cracked $24K a year, that's for sure. But hey, as you say, this is America and I'm tryin'.