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Old 06-20-2012, 05:01 AM
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Originally Posted by bobabode View Post
Talk about an uphill row to hoe. Whew! Congress has simply stymied every chance of Obama's policy changes getting cleared, funded or what have you thru their partisan little fingers. Over and over the howls of false equivalence are bandied about as proof that the Prez is a duplicitous, scheming son of a bitch. It's not only outrageous to lay the blame at Obama's door it really leaves me despairing of seeing anything meaningful to discuss here.
For sure campaign promises are to be looked at with a jaundiced eye. Compromise always results in less than what you wanted or expected but to equate Obama's record with any other President ignores the faithless and destructive efforts being used by the GOP. There has never been a congress who has stooped so low, never in our history.
Filibuster, filibuster , filibuster is their mantra. Except when they hold the budget hostage and threaten to shut down the government. Look where that got us. A downgrade in our reputation in the bond market? Does anyone remember that one? Man, I'm so tired of trying to defend the Prez against these wacked out accusations. Look to congress for your bogeymen 'cause that's where they reside , not at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave.
A cloture and a filibuster are distinct but yet I've notice clotures being used as a measure of filibusters.

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In the 2007–08 session of Congress, there were 112 cloture votes[23] and some have used this number to argue an increase in the number of filibusters occurring in recent times. However, the Senate leadership has increasingly utilized cloture as a routine tool to manage the flow of business, even in the absence of any apparent filibuster. For these reasons, the presence or absence of cloture attempts cannot be taken as a reliable guide to the presence or absence of a filibuster.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filibus..._States_Senate


Here's a couple of graphs of the fillibuster over recent Congresses. Aside from the record 110th, I don't see much difference between the parties.




http://heathenrepublican.blogspot.co...libusters.html

The numbers from an alternate source:
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