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mpholland 06-27-2015 11:09 AM

This ought to be interesting...
 
Never thought they'd be able to tangle guns and marriage up.

http://bearingarms.com/scotus-ruling...paign=gpupdate

Pio1980 06-27-2015 11:15 AM

I'm aware that this may/ should have arisen from a reciprocity decision on gay marriage. A decision on local control over firearms will no doubt be required for clarification. What is clear is, like the failed states in the Middle East, we presently have some of the best armed nut jobs in the world here, and this can only make things worse.

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BlueStreak 06-27-2015 11:36 AM

Yep.

What do you do when it's a state that chooses to violate the Constitutional rights of individuals?

The federal government at times must have the power to intercede and enforce the U.S. Constitution. Otherwise there is no point in even having a national constitution.

Hence the 14th Amendment.

Dave

Rajoo 06-27-2015 12:06 PM

I see his argument is valid as I read it. But then a reinterpretation and intent of the Second Amendment should also be up for argument.

merrylander 06-27-2015 12:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlueStreak (Post 276369)
Yep.

What do you do when it's a state that chooses to violate the Constitutional rights of individuals?

The federal government at times must have the power to intercede and enforce the U.S. Constitution. Otherwise there is no point in even having a national constitution.

Hence the 14th Amendment.

Dave

Article IV Section 1 of the Constitution requires all states to recognize any legally solemnized marriage perfomed in any other state.

BlueStreak 06-27-2015 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by BeamOn (Post 276371)
I see his argument is valid as I read it. But then a reinterpretation and intent of the Second Amendment should also be up for argument.

Yes, but what (I think) he fails to see is that following this logic and implementing it in every issue, "states rights" would become almost meaningless. No big deal to me but to a gun toting wingnut it should be. It places the entire gun control issue into the hands of the federal government.

Something a so-called "Conservative" is supposed to oppose.

BlueStreak 06-27-2015 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by merrylander (Post 276373)
Article IV Section 1 of the Constitution requires all states to recognize any legally solemnized marriage perfomed in any other state.

Correct and thee 14th solidifies that and makes it enforceable.

Tom Joad 06-27-2015 12:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mpholland (Post 276366)
Never thought they'd be able to tangle guns and marriage up.

http://bearingarms.com/scotus-ruling...paign=gpupdate

Quote:

Using the same “due process clause” argument as the Supreme Court just applied to gay marriage, my concealed carry permit must now be recognized as valid in all 50 states and the District of Columbia.

Cool!

I'm all for this.


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