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HarmanKardon 05-04-2015 02:05 AM

Cartoon event in Texas - gunmen killed!
 
Two gunmen have been killed at a Mohammed Cartoon Art Exhibition in Texas. So weit so gut! (German proverb.)

But sometimes I ask myself where the threshold is turning free speech into sheer provocation. The incident happened just after a speech of Gert Wilders, who is the naziest Dutch the Netherlands currently have to offer.

finnbow 05-04-2015 06:56 AM

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Originally Posted by HarmanKardon (Post 269475)
Two gunmen have been killed at a Mohammed Cartoon Art Exhibition in Texas. So weit so gut! (German proverb.)

But sometimes I ask myself where the threshold is turning free speech into sheer provocation. The incident happened just after a speech of Gert Wilders, who is the naziest Dutch the Netherlands currently have to offer.

He and Pamela Geller, our own lunatic extraordinaire, were behind this event.

HarmanKardon 05-04-2015 07:11 AM

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This lady is absolutely new to me.

HarmanKardon 05-04-2015 07:12 AM

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I really prefer this lady:

finnbow 05-04-2015 07:13 AM

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Originally Posted by HarmanKardon (Post 269477)
This nice lady is absolutely new to me.

She's a raving lunatic and a heroine of the far right. Little wonder she chose to have this "contest" in Texas.

Ike Bana 05-04-2015 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by HarmanKardon (Post 269475)
Two gunmen have been killed at a Mohammed Cartoon Art Exhibition in Texas. So weit so gut! (German proverb.)

But sometimes I ask myself where the threshold is turning free speech into sheer provocation. The incident happened just after a speech of Gert Wilders, who is the naziest Dutch the Netherlands currently have to offer.

I don't give a shit in Goebbel's hat if Pamela Geller is a nazi. Pamela Geller is an asshole, but Pamela Geller isn't gunning down people who offend her.

Free speech is free speech. If it's provocative it's too fucking bad. "Piss Christ" was free speech. Fred Phelps practices free speech. George Lincoln Rockwell and Malcolm X were practicing their right to free speech and were murdered for it.

American flag "desecration" is free speech. What those who would limit flag burning or any other free speech constantly forget is that more than anything, the US Flag stands for the right to walk on, piss on, and/or burn down the US Flag. Tough shit if it's "provocative", get the fuck over it. This is the USA, Germany, The Netherlands, Belgium, France... not Gaza City for christ's sake.

Tom Joad 05-04-2015 08:34 AM

Stupid redneck bigots.

Ike Bana 05-04-2015 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Tom Joad (Post 269483)
Stupid redneck bigots.

Absolutely. Stupid redneck bigots with rights. And on the continuum of bigots, not as far down the bigot list as bigots who give themselves the right to gun down anybody who "offends" them.

JJIII 05-04-2015 08:49 AM

I agree with Ike's post #6 completely.

HarmanKardon 05-04-2015 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Ike Bana (Post 269482)
I don't give a shit in Goebbel's hat if Pamela Geller is a nazi. Pamela Geller is an asshole, but Pamela Geller isn't gunning down people who offend her.

Free speech is free speech. If it's provocative it's too fucking bad. "Piss Christ" was free speech. Fred Phelps practices free speech. George Lincoln Rockwell and Malcolm X were practicing their right to free speech and were murdered for it.

American flag "desecration" is free speech. What those who would limit flag burning or any other free speech constantly forget is that more than anything, the US Flag stands for the right to walk on, piss on, and/or burn down the US Flag. Tough shit if it's "provocative", get the fuck over it. This is the USA, Germany, The Netherlands, Belgium, France... not Gaza City for christ's sake.

I respect your comment and partly agree.

Anyway I rather vote for deescalation, I cannot accept religious provocations because in my opinion at last they are counter-productive. I think that attitudes like efforts to understanding and reconciliation amongst the believers of Judaism, Christianity and Islam make much more sense.


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