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bobabode 06-26-2014 07:58 AM

4th Amendment and Smart Phones
 
http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/l...625-story.html

Privacy of cellphones upheld in unanimous decision by the SCOTUS.

finnbow 06-26-2014 08:05 AM

The decision seems obvious and correct. Today's smartphones are tantamount to carrying around a PC in your pocket. You'd need a warrant to search the contents of a PC.

merrylander 06-26-2014 08:23 AM

Does not bother us as we don't own cellphones smart or otherwise.

MrPots 06-26-2014 04:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by merrylander (Post 227314)
Does not bother us as we don't own cellphones smart or otherwise.

We're a dying breed my man. Dinosaurs of a time when we got by just fine without them.

icenine 06-26-2014 04:36 PM

But if they pulled you over would they be able to keep you from getting rid of it before getting the warrant? In other words one would need a Mission Impossible self-destruct button to brick it before they got their superfast warrant via text-a-Judge.


Can they keep you from accessing it before getting a warrant in other words?
They could hand-cuff you, then call for a warrant, then get your to your phone before you could.

Right?

barbara 06-26-2014 04:43 PM

I suspect it is harder to get rid of information in a smart phone than just disabling it. It's a little computer and has data stored in ways that can be retrieved even when damaged. And, if one is hooked into the cloud, then your information can be accessed in cyberspace somehow.

Just ask Abby on NCIS!!!

JJIII 06-27-2014 06:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by barbara (Post 227441)
I suspect it is harder to get rid of information in a smart phone than just disabling it. It's a little computer and has data stored in ways that can be retrieved even when damaged. And, if one is hooked into the cloud, then your information can be accessed in cyberspace somehow.

Just ask Abby on NCIS!!!

There is/was a member on AK that does exactly that for a living. I don't remember his AK name though. He and I had a conversation via PM about it. Very interesting.

MrPots 06-27-2014 11:22 AM

Good rule of thumb, anything you put on a computer can and will be used against you.

Someone will try to steal your information for personal gain.

So the less you use social media and the less you log on a computer for your anything other than cataloging your music or photographs the better.

Dondilion 06-27-2014 11:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by icenine (Post 227439)
But if they pulled you over would they be able to keep you from getting rid of it before getting the warrant? In other words one would need a Mission Impossible self-destruct button to brick it before they got their superfast warrant via text-a-Judge.


Can they keep you from accessing it before getting a warrant in other words?
They could hand-cuff you, then call for a warrant, then get your to your phone before you could.

Right?

Just a statement from SCOTUS. :D

merrylander 06-27-2014 12:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by barbara (Post 227441)
I suspect it is harder to get rid of information in a smart phone than just disabling it. It's a little computer and has data stored in ways that can be retrieved even when damaged. And, if one is hooked into the cloud, then your information can be accessed in cyberspace somehow.

Just ask Abby on NCIS!!!

I like Abby but even she cannot recover anything if it is the memory chip that is trashed. For example deleting a file on a hard drive simply involves changing a single byte but folks like Norton have programs that not only delete files but will scrub the whole drive to ones and zeroes.


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