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finnbow 01-19-2010 10:47 AM

FBI broke law for years in phone record searches
 
The FBI illegally collected more than 2,000 U.S. telephone call records between 2002 and 2006 by invoking terrorism emergencies that did not exist.

Where's the outrage from Republican "anti-big government/law & order/personal accountability" zealots when their administration is found to have broken the law by illegally and systematically accessing phone records for years?

Boreas 01-19-2010 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by finnbow (Post 16268)
The FBI illegally collected more than 2,000 U.S. telephone call records between 2002 and 2006 by invoking terrorism emergencies that did not exist.

I find it endearingly quaint that the FBI felt they needed to have an excuse.

John

BlueStreak 01-19-2010 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Boreas (Post 16271)
I find it endearingly quaint that the FBI felt they needed to have an excuse.

John

For real. Look at all of the blatantly unconstitutional stuff they did during the McCarthy Era, The Lennon Files, etc..........

Dave

Boreas 01-19-2010 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by BlueStreak (Post 16275)
For real. Look at all of the blatantly unconstitutional stuff they did during the McCarthy Era, The Lennon Files, etc..........

Dave

And Dr. King.

John

Grumpy 01-19-2010 11:52 AM

When terrorists are invloved they will say no law applies. To some extent I agree, but certainly not completely.

Now turn the tables. What would the libs have screamed if they had the info on an attack from these calls and it was not used. Oh wait we been there all ready :)

BlueStreak 01-19-2010 11:54 AM

Can't forget that.

You should see what one of my FAR-right friends posted on my Facebook page.

Sheesh!

Dave

Grumpy 01-19-2010 11:59 AM

Thankfully I am not far right, nor on facebook :)

merrylander 01-19-2010 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Grumpy (Post 16285)
Thankfully I am not far right, nor on facebook :)

I'm with you on that one, also twitter.

BlueStreak 01-19-2010 12:35 PM

I have the Facebook account, but I'm rarely on it anymore. It's good for finding long lost friends, but then you discover what they have become............................:eek:

Tried "Twitter"---hated it.

Dave

142EBC 01-19-2010 07:31 PM

Honest point here... I'd like to hear both sides in a civil, open minded manner.

We need to protect ourselves from terrorists. Although I don't want my private life made public, I have nothing to hide. Also, out of all the possible phone records that could have been illegally collected, 2000 doesn't seem like that many, in light of an inexact science such as intel gathering. How many of those 2000 records were used to do anything illegal or unethical to the individual to which they belonged?

What alternative is available to find terrorists other than covert surveillance? As has been said so many times, Freedom isn't Free; that doesn't just apply to those who have paid in war, but also to those enjoying peace at home. There is a price we all need to pay to maintain our liberty.

Alternatives?

Mike


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