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djv8ga 06-12-2014 11:12 AM

Why "Global Warming" Failed...
 
& why climate change is real - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5c4XPVPJwBY#t=103

Fast_Eddie 06-12-2014 04:43 PM

I only watched part of it so far. I'll watch the rest when I get time. I will say, this is the most compelling case I've seen made against the accepted models of climate change.

One significant flaw, however, keeps me from giving it more credence. This "pause in global warming" he talks about - there hasn't been a pause in global warming. It's true that surface temperatures are rising less quickly than they were. But that's just surface temperature data, and regardless, it's still rising. If you listen to this guy, he doesn't actually deny that.

However, much more importantly, this variation in surface temperature data hasn't been mirrored by a decrease in rise of ocean levels or polar ice melt. Which leads to one conclusion - it's still getting a lot warmer and our oceans are absorbing more of that heat than the surface.

While that may sound like the Earth taking care of everything for us, as this guy suggests, it is not. Ocean temperature rise is the far more critical issue with regard to human habitability of the planet.

djv8ga 06-12-2014 04:50 PM

After you watch the whole video, please comment again. I think he will respond to any questions I email him.

bobabode 06-12-2014 04:51 PM

Ya lost me with John Coleman DJ. :rolleyes: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Co..._weathercaster)

djv8ga 06-12-2014 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by bobabode (Post 224411)
Ya lost me with John Coleman DJ. :rolleyes: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Co..._weathercaster)

Why? - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Co..._weathercaster)

Fast_Eddie 06-12-2014 04:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by djv8ga (Post 224410)
After you watch the whole video, please comment again. I think he will respond to any questions I email him.

I will if I get a chance. Thought, honestly, I don't have any questions for him - other than to ask "why are you mischaracterizing the current data as suggesting a 'pause' in global warming when there clearly is none?" But, I mean, we know the answer, and it's one he's not likely to offer himself: he has an agenda.

He uses this alleged "pause" as the basis for his whole argument (as far as I've gotten). He shows, accurately, that CO2 and temperature have moved in lock step, but says it has all changed for the first time in observable history. As evidence he offers the "pause" that hasn't happened. So, I mean...

djv8ga 06-12-2014 05:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fast_Eddie (Post 224417)
But, I mean, we know the answer, and it's one he's not likely to offer himself: he has an agenda.

You need to watch it to the end. He responds to that exact assumption.

BlueStreak 06-12-2014 05:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by djv8ga (Post 224418)
You need to watch it to the end. He responds to that exact assumption.

Because he knew people would come to that conclusion? (Like they always do.)

bobabode 06-12-2014 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by djv8ga (Post 224414)

He's an anthropogenic climate change denier.

djv8ga 06-12-2014 07:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobabode (Post 224439)
He's an anthropogenic climate change denier.

He never says that the climate isn't changing.


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