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piece-itpete 05-01-2014 09:49 AM

Death penalty.
 
Thought it might be interesting to see a poll on topic. Private answer.

Pete

Ike Bana 05-01-2014 10:55 AM

None of the above, Pete. Methinks you oversimplify. Or maybe you was just foolin' around a tad.

piece-itpete 05-01-2014 10:57 AM

I wasn't ;) Feel free to expand.

Pete

barbara 05-01-2014 01:14 PM

Ok.... I'll jump in.

I admit, I'm really conflicted about the death penalty.

It cost more than life in prison and I doubt it really deters anyone from similar crimes. And it just seems wrong to me to kill someone.

On the other hand, someone like that guy who held those women for years in Cleveland, would deserve death in my opinion.

BlueStreak 05-01-2014 01:36 PM

We are entirely too kind to convicted murderers. We allow them far too much opportunity to appeal. They should get one, maybe two appeals and then into the blender they go.

So, an innocent one gets through every now and then? Oh, well, s**t happens.

Dave

Oerets 05-01-2014 01:40 PM

Guess I'm against it. Don't think I could ever impose that judgment if on a jury. Do think it does not matter what the manner of execution is administered either. Firing squad electric chair hanging ect they all are the same for me. They get the job done so don't matter a hill of beans. If the majority wants the death penalty so be it.

But could see changing my mind and want to do it myself if anything were to hit close to home. So I'm a complicated individual like us all.


Some think I'm kidding but I'm all for solitary confinement bread and water with making smaller rocks out of big ones as exercise in between as the gold standard for a life sentence.




Barney

BlueStreak 05-01-2014 01:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by barbara (Post 214664)
Ok.... I'll jump in.

I admit, I'm really conflicted about the death penalty.

It cost more than life in prison and I doubt it really deters anyone from similar crimes. And it just seems wrong to me to kill someone.

On the other hand, someone like that guy who held those women for years in Cleveland, would deserve death in my opinion.

Only because we tarry about with it, excessively. There is no reason why killing a convicted murderer should cost very much. A bullet through the brain and a box in addition to paying the executioner and someone to mop up the mess. Few hundred bucks, maybe a grand at the most.

Dave

donquixote99 05-01-2014 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlueStreak (Post 214670)
We are entirely too kind to convicted murderers. We allow them far too much opportunity to appeal. They should get one, maybe two appeals and then into the blender they go.

So, an innocent one gets through every now and then? Oh, well, s**t happens.

Dave

Well Dave, I didn't expect to see the death wish from you. That's a big case too, when you dismiss an innocent victim of the system with a 'shit happens.'

If you don't care about innocent victims, why do you want the murderers dead in the first place?

Seems to me you're being sort of pre-logical here.

finnbow 05-01-2014 01:45 PM

If politicians didn't wear their willingness/desire to execute people as a merit badge for their "toughness on crime" (or accuse people who have moral qualms about it as soft on crime), I might be more willing to accept it. I think peoples' enthusiasm for the death penalty will ultimately fade, as it has in all other civilized countries (except Japan to a small degree).

The following 21 countries are believed by Amnesty International to have carried out executions in 2012: Afghanistan (14), Bangladesh (1), Belarus (3+), China (2000+), Gambia (9), India (1), Iran (314+), Iraq (129+), Japan (7), North Korea (6+), Pakistan (1), Palestine (6), Republic of China (6), Saudi Arabia (79+), Somalia (6+), South Sudan (5+), Sudan (19+), UAE (1), USA (43), Yemen (28+).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Use_of_..._population.29

Dondilion 05-01-2014 01:49 PM

Too many innocent people are convicted of murder.

The death penalty has not deterred people from committing murder.

It is time to get rid of it.

Lets give "Live without parole".


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