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Oerets 09-28-2011 07:39 PM

26 states appeal health care law to Supreme Court
 
With the Healthcare bill maybe going to the Supreme Court for review any guesses on it out come.

Given the current makeup in the court right now I could see it overturned.

What a mess this would be to have it up during the presidential election cycle. Should have a decision on whether to hear arguments by the summer I'm guessing.




Barney

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/29/us...ling.html?_r=1


http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-0...-care-law.html

Charles 09-28-2011 07:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oerets (Post 74340)
With the Healthcare bill maybe going to the Supreme Court for review any guesses on it out come.

Given the current makeup in the court right now I could see it overturned.

What a mess this would be to have it up during the presidential election cycle. Should have a decision on whether to hear arguments by the summer I'm guessing.




Barney

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/29/us...ling.html?_r=1


http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-0...-care-law.html

IMHO, it stinks like shit and should be overturned.

What just happened was we pooled our money and sent an idiot uptown to buy more wine, and he came back with a case of Mad Dog 20/20.

Send his stupid ass back uptown to exchange it for something that we can stand to drink.

Chas

finnbow 09-28-2011 08:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Charles (Post 74350)
IMHO, it stinks like shit and should be overturned.

What just happened was we pooled our money and sent an idiot uptown to buy more wine, and he came back with a case of Mad Dog 20/20.

Send his stupid ass back uptown to exchange it for something that we can stand to drink.

Chas

I think I'm pretty much with you on this one, Chas, though I can't say it so artfully. ;) There's no doubt that the health care system was FUBAR when Obama came on board, yet he achieved the impossible. He made it worse.:(

BlueStreak 09-28-2011 08:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oerets (Post 74340)
With the Healthcare bill maybe going to the Supreme Court for review any guesses on it out come.

Given the current makeup in the court right now I could see it overturned.

What a mess this would be to have it up during the presidential election cycle. Should have a decision on whether to hear arguments by the summer I'm guessing.




Barney

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/29/us...ling.html?_r=1


http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-0...-care-law.html

I heard today, that even if the SCOTUS agrees to hear the case A.S.A.P., ----That it won't be until late next year that we'll have a ruling. So, that would put it right in the middle of the hottest part of the election.

Dave

BlueStreak 09-28-2011 08:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by finnbow (Post 74359)
I think I'm pretty much with you on this one, Chas, though I can't say it so artfully. ;) There's no doubt that the health care system was FUBAR when Obama came on board, yet he achieved the impossible. He made it worse.:(

I'm sure it's the same for everyone. But now my insurance company tracks my prescription refills and appointments then notifies my doctor if I let any of them lapse. Then I get a phone call and eventually a letter reminding me of how important having healthcare coverage is. Got one last month because I missed my annual ECG. I don't know if that's part of PPACA or not. But I can't help but wonder when such things are going to have a heavy penalty attached..........

Dave

finnbow 09-28-2011 08:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlueStreak (Post 74361)
I heard today, that even if the SCOTUS agrees to hear the case A.S.A.P., ----That it won't be until late next year that we'll have a ruling. So, that would put it right in the middle of the hottest part of the election.

Dave

So, the SCOTUS may, in effect, decide the election for the second time in 12 years.

Oerets 09-28-2011 08:42 PM

I agree it was a bad bill without a single payer or a government option the it was incomplete. My hope was that the bill was gong to be a starting point to build upon. There are good portions in the bill that address some needs like the extended coverage for kids and pre-diagnosed conditions.

If it gets overturned I'm afraid an attempt at reform will not be attempted again for good long while.

Quote:

Originally Posted by finnbow (Post 74363)
So, the SCOTUS may, in effect, decide the election for the second time in 12 years.


Yes!


Barney

d-ray657 09-28-2011 09:54 PM

Some of the things like coverage for kids and the minimum percentage of premiums that must be used for health care costs are not part of the challenge as I understand. Even the courts that have found parts of it unenforceable have upheld the majority of its provisions. Is much as the GOP would tout it as beating "Obamacare" it would only be a partial overruling. Of course, the Court could refuse to hear it at all.

Regards,

D-Ray

Oerets 09-28-2011 09:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by d-ray657 (Post 74379)
Some of the things like coverage for kids and the minimum percentage of premiums that must be used for health care costs are not part of the challenge as I understand. Even the courts that have found parts of it unenforceable have upheld the majority of its provisions. Is much as the GOP would tout it as beating "Obamacare" it would only be a partial overruling. Of course, the Court could refuse to hear it at all.

Regards,

D-Ray

One can only hope!

But in these times I wonder if politics and not the law will intervene somewhat.



Barney

d-ray657 09-28-2011 10:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oerets (Post 74380)
One can only hope!

But in these times I wonder if politics and not the law will intervene somewhat.



Barney

Do you mean the politics of the guys who wear the robes?

Regards,

D-Ray


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