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barbara 11-19-2024 08:20 AM

Mass Deportations
 
I do think illegal border crossings need to be addressed, but, my gut tells me that mass deportation is not the best way to deal with the issue.
So, I looked back at history when Eisenhower tried mass deportation to get some insight into how things worked back then.

Here is some information:

https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-...ration-wetback

https://www.history.com/news/operati...54-deportation

Oerets 11-19-2024 09:18 AM

If there were to be a penalty imposed onto the owners of businesses that employed and housed illegal immigrants. One with serious fines up to and including seizure of businesses and property. Imprisonment for repeat offenders also a option.

With no jobs no roof they might self deport. Or stop coming all together.

Noogies 11-19-2024 10:25 AM

Good topic for a thread. My own view is deport those who run afoul of the law ASAP and a path to citizenship for the others.

The same bipartisan border plan Trump quashed in order to campaign on the issue should be adequate to slow further influx to a trickle. Of course, Trump being Trump, he'll have to call it something else, like "The Great American Purity Plan".

Human 11-19-2024 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Oerets (Post 432956)
If there were to be a penalty imposed onto the owners of businesses that employed and housed illegal immigrants. One with serious fines up to and including seizure of businesses and property.

Not gonna happen.

My guess is very few will actually be deported due to the cost involved and the fact that businesses depend on this quasi-slave labor force.

Oerets 11-19-2024 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Human (Post 432959)
Not gonna happen.

My guess is very few will actually be deported due to the cost involved and the fact that businesses depend on this quasi-slave labor force.

Gotta have somewhere that is willing to take them back also.........

Noogies 11-19-2024 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Oerets (Post 432960)
Gotta have somewhere that is willing to take them back also.........

Not really. Just parachute them into their country of origin. :D

finnbow 11-19-2024 02:49 PM

If Trump's track record on the border wall is any clue (~50 miles of new wall), he may succeed in deporting a couple percent of the ~12 million of illegal aliens and claim success. He probably won't deport significantly more than Obama did (upwards of 500k per year). Unlike Obama, however, Trump will be as loud and cruel as possible. His base demands no less.

Dondilion 11-19-2024 05:47 PM

Millions of Americans of working age have voluntarily withdrawn from the work force. Additionally those who want to work are not drawn to the typical work of the undocumented. There are tremendous forces in the economy acting against mass deportation.
I believe Trump will just make some noise, take some photo ops and move on. Yet he seems to have a special thing against Haitians.

The irony is the president who did not make much noise deported a record number of people.

finnbow 11-19-2024 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Dondilion (Post 432970)
Millions of Americans of working age have voluntarily withdrawn from the work force. Additionally those who want to work are not drawn to the typical work of the undocumented. There are tremendous forces in the economy acting against mass deportation.
I believe Trump will just make some noise, take some photo ops and move on. Yet he seems to have a special thing against Haitians.

The irony is the president who did not make much noise deported a record number of people.

Pro tip: It ain't just Haitians. It's Latinos, Muslims and Caribbean or African Blacks. He's an equal opportunity racist.

Chicks 11-19-2024 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Dondilion (Post 432970)
Millions of Americans of working age have voluntarily withdrawn from the work force.

From that old commie organization, the US Chamber of Commerce:

Quote:

The Great Resignation worked its way into our vocabulary as the shift of our labor force started to become apparent—and the hashtag #quittok even went viral as social media users posted about quitting their jobs in search of more free time or better opportunities.

However, the story is more complex than individuals leaving their job. In fact, a more appropriate moniker for the high quit rates over the past few years is the "Great Reshuffle." More than 44 million Americans quit their jobs in 2023, and 3.4 million quit in January 2024 alone. However, the hiring rate has outpaced the quit rate since November 2020. This means Americans are seeking – and finding – better opportunities with new employers and in new occupations and industries.

https://www.uschamber.com/workforce/[email protected].


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