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Calexit is for real. :)
http://www.yescalifornia.org/

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Acknowledging that the legal and political obstacles are formidable, the proponent of a state ballot measure to sever California’s ties with the United States and form its own nation has been cleared to start collecting signatures.

If passed by voters, the measure, “California Nationhood. Initiative Constitutional Amendment and Statue,” would remove language from the state constitution describing California as “an inseparable part of the United States of America” and require the governor to request admission for California to the United Nations.

That would be just the start of a long and arduous path to nationhood.
In order to be eligible for the 2018 ballot, the proponent, Marcus Ruiz Evans, will have to collect 585,407 valid signatures from California voters by July 25.

According to an opinion article he recently wrote for the San Jose Mercury News, Evans said “almost 7,000 volunteers” will collect the signatures — an extremely difficult task without professional signature gatherers. It’s generally believed to cost at least $1.5 million to finance a successful signature gathering drive of that magnitude. So far, campaign records on file show the Yes California committee has raised no money.

In his op-ed, Evans, who appears to be based in Fresno, acknowledged that separation from the U.S. won’t be easy.

“Taxes, military bases, establishing an army are just a few of the issues,” Evans wrote, adding that “California has the benefit of the Federal Supreme Court decision of Texas v. White (decided after the Civil War), which said states cannot violently unilaterally secede, but they could secede ‘through consent of the states.'”

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I guess the takeaway from this is the GOP welfare states would have to vote to lose their free lunch.

Carl

Here is the good part:

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For example, Governor Jerry Brown’s State of the State speech this week made clear that California officials will not cooperate with efforts to deport illegal aliens. “We will defend everybody — every man, woman, and child,” Brown said, “who has come here for a better life and has contributed to the well-being of our state.” Local authorities have echoed this sentiment. Immediately following the presidential election, the San Francisco Board of Supervisors wrote a resolution defying Trump’s stance on immigration: “No matter the threats made by President-elect Trump,” the board members wrote, “San Francisco will remain a Sanctuary City.”

And here is what make this near impossible.

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California may be the sixth-largest economy in the world, but to successfully resist Trump by seceding from the union is an endeavor unlikely to succeed. After all, it’s not just Californians who decide their state’s fate; two-thirds of Congress and three-quarters of states (or a constitutional convention) would have to approve a constitutional amendment allowing it, making the ambitious secession proposal a failure before it even arrives at the ballot box.

But we sure as hell can kick some shit around.

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner...administration

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Originally Posted by Dondilion (Post 345763)

Just noise.

That's Illinois, CA is a 'can do' state. :)

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Originally Posted by Rajoo (Post 345769)

That's Illinois, CA is a 'can do' state. :)

The Chicago effect? :D

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Originally Posted by Dondilion (Post 345763)

Just noise.

Isn't that the main tool of the current president?

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Originally Posted by d-ray657 (Post 345802)

Isn't that the main tool of the current president?

Yes he is literally very good at making noises it seems. :D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fCC0n4fBwkc

Worth watching for a laugh, it's only 28 seconds long.

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“California has the benefit of the Federal Supreme Court decision of Texas v. White (decided after the Civil War), which said states cannot violently unilaterally secede, but they could secede ‘through consent of the states.'”

"which said states cannot violently unilaterally secede":rolleyes:

Real men wouldn't let that stop them.

But for those Latte Sippin Beta Males out there on the left coast that's a convenient excuse not to man up and try it.

Which is a good thing for them.

Because if they did, the real men in flyover country would roll over them like a Diamond T Dump Truck with a seven yard load of wet concrete rolls over an aluminum beer can. :)

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Originally Posted by Rajoo (Post 345755)

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And here is what make this near impossible.

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner...administration

Correct. Something most people do not understand about the last secession of states; The act of seceding and forming an army against the United States, without Constitutional Amendment alone was a de facto declaration of war.

"War of Northern Aggression" my ass.

What would all those moocher red states like Alabammy do without our dirty hippie tax dollars to prop them up? Where would they get the abundance of food that we grow and ship east to them?

Never fear lil' goobers, we won't abandon you. We will Californicate you instead. :cool: