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bobabode 12-30-2016 10:05 PM

Russians Hacking the Electrical Grid
 
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...=.d025ca5b0981

Time to turn the lights out in Moscow. :p

Oerets 12-30-2016 10:21 PM

This is why a few weeks ago I put in place a plan for the family to have a ground zero for messages and meeting. A place for everyone to leave messages in case of a technology breakdown and a loss of contact.

Just think of it no cell phones, internet hell even you cars/trucks have chips that can be fried. Just how would you find someone???


Barney

hillbilly 12-30-2016 10:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oerets (Post 343011)
This is why a few weeks ago I put in place a plan for the family to have a ground zero for messages and meeting. A place for everyone to leave messages in case of a technology breakdown and a loss of contact.

Just think of it no cell phones, internet hell even you cars/trucks have chips that can be fried. Just how would you find someone???


Barney

Will it fry points and condenser? And a brush generator with mechanical voltage regulator rather than solid state electronic? One that can be push started and driven even if no battery is present? Reason I ask is I didn't get out with the old and in with the new, I kept a couple old vehicles and never sold or traded them in when buying newer vehicles over the years.

Oerets 12-30-2016 10:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hillbilly (Post 343012)
Will it fry points and condenser? And a brush generator with mechanical voltage regulator rather than solid state electronic? One that can be push started and driven even if no battery is present? Reason I ask is I didn't get out with the old and in with the new, I kept a couple old vehicles and never sold or traded them in when buying newer vehicles over the years.

Points condenser should be OK. It is solid state that can be effected!

My 70 VW was converted to solid state. Still have to the parts and know how to go back if need be.

A good flash can wreck shear havoc on IC's and trani's .....


Barney

hillbilly 12-30-2016 11:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oerets (Post 343014)
Points condenser should be OK. It is solid state that can be effected!

My 70 VW was converted to solid state. Still have to the parts and know how to go back if need be.

A good flash can wreck shear havoc on IC's and trani's .....


Barney

That's good to know. I didn't keep them for this reason, honestly I never really thought about it until lately. They were just vehicles that my wife and I were driving when we first met and I just kept them.

I guess I'm maybe weird to be sentimental of some things but I also kept our kids first little Honda 50 and all these years later I have grandchildren fixing to learn on it before long like their mother and uncle did.

donquixote99 12-31-2016 04:43 AM

Just to keep our minds right, the 'flash' that fries non-internet-but-electronic-dependent cars isn't hacker action, it's the electro-magnetic-pulse (EMP) from a nuclear explosion. That is therefor a lot worse on the disaster scale that a Ruskie-engineered revolt of our electronic servants.

In the event that an EMP fries your car's electronics you'll probably want a well-equipped fallout shelter to survive the first couple of weeks in a semi-civilized style.

MrPots 12-31-2016 08:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobabode (Post 343008)
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...=.d025ca5b0981

Time to turn the lights out in Moscow. :p

So, has Trump tweeted praise to the Russians for their excellent hacking skills yet?

sheltiedave 12-31-2016 08:50 AM

Hardly anyone has a good fallout shelter. You need fresh hepa filtered air, power, a sewer drain, adequate security, and a radiation physicist to let you know whether to shelter in place, or flee. You also need to know where the explosions happened.

MrPots 12-31-2016 09:00 AM

I'm sure Don doesn't care about all that. Now that he's POTUS, someone else will ensure he's safe. Nobody else matters.

donquixote99 12-31-2016 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by sheltiedave (Post 343020)
Hardly anyone has a good fallout shelter. You need fresh hepa filtered air, power, a sewer drain, adequate security, and a radiation physicist to let you know whether to shelter in place, or flee. You also need to know where the explosions happened.

Given that people are likely to lack all that information and expertise, two weeks is the usual wag. Much less would be enough in many places. Bad idea to be right downwind from a large and dirty one though.

My point is that if you're going to worry about an EMP frying your car, you have a lot of other stuff to worry about first.


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