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bobabode 10-15-2016 02:01 PM

‘It will be a bloodbath’:
 
'Inside the Kansas militia plot to ignite a religious war'

"The “Crusaders” knew they wanted to kill Muslims — and with luck, use the “bloodbath” to****ignite****a religious war — but for months they couldn’t settle on a plan.
The easiest way would be to grab guns, go to the predominantly Somali-Muslim apartment complex they’d been surveilling and start kicking in doors, court documents said. They would spare no one, not even babies.
In the end,****they decided to set off bombs similar to the one Timothy McVeigh used in 1995 to kill 168 people in****Oklahoma City. They planned to strike after the Nov. 8 election, investigators said." WaPo

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.25bf3e4004a9

Ain't Uhmerica great? :p

Boreas 10-15-2016 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by bobabode (Post 333492)
'Inside the Kansas militia plot to ignite a religious war'

"The “Crusaders” knew they wanted to kill Muslims — and with luck, use the “bloodbath” to****ignite****a religious war — but for months they couldn’t settle on a plan.
The easiest way would be to grab guns, go to the predominantly Somali-Muslim apartment complex they’d been surveilling and start kicking in doors, court documents said. They would spare no one, not even babies.
In the end,****they decided to set off bombs similar to the one Timothy McVeigh used in 1995 to kill 168 people in****Oklahoma City. They planned to strike after the Nov. 8 election, investigators said." WaPo

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.25bf3e4004a9

Ain't Uhmerica great? :p

If you're a fan of cancer.

Dondilion 10-15-2016 02:38 PM

Be wary: Is the confidential informer the leader in formulating the plan?

Is he the driving force behind the plan?

bobabode 10-15-2016 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Dondilion (Post 333499)
Be wary: Is the confidential informer the leader in formulating the plan?

Is he the driving force behind the plan?

You're pulling our legs, right? :confused:

Dondilion 10-15-2016 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by bobabode (Post 333500)
You're pulling our legs, right? :confused:

No!...

bobabode 10-15-2016 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Dondilion (Post 333503)
No!...

Okay. What gives you the idea that these potential terrorists were entrapped?

donquixote99 10-15-2016 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Dondilion (Post 333499)
Be wary: Is the confidential informer the leader in formulating the plan?

Is he the driving force behind the plan?

Nothing in the story indicates that to me. Specific things the other defendants are described as doing certainly would make them culpable. The 'confidential informant' is not actually described as an undercover agent. Evidence is needed to back up your suspicion that the informant may have actually been a provocateur, and at the moment I see none at all. But it isn't impossible, of course.

Dondilion 10-15-2016 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by donquixote99 (Post 333506)
Nothing in the story indicates that to me. Specific things the other defendants are described as doing certainly would make them culpable. The 'confidential informant' is not actually described as an undercover agent. Evidence is needed to back up your suspicion that the informant may have actually been a provocateur, and at the moment I see none at all. But it isn't impossible, of course.

Anytime there is a informer involved in a case, I pass no judge until I have some idea of his or her involvement.

The FBI because of its informant history has evolved higher standards than say the New York Police Department.

However I still remain uneasy. They are too many enabling informers.

CarlV 10-15-2016 04:02 PM

What was dude's name again? Alan Kayda?


Carl


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