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Wasillaguy 08-12-2016 12:10 PM

The genius of Zappa
 
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"Defense Money should be put into manpower and equipment appropriate to the kinds of conflicts we are really going to encounter in the next quarter-century. The manpower should be dedicated, the equipment should be easy to operate and maintain, and the management of military assets should be streamlined. Let's say we have to make some 'show of force.' The most common scenarios involve small guerrilla or terrorist groups. Nuclear retaliation? It has been suggested by others that Aerosol Pork Grenades would be a better deterrent--Islamic Martyrs are denied entrance to heaven if they show up at the gate smelling like a pig. Denial of The Big Payoff removes a certain cachet from acts of voluntary self-destruction." -Frank Zappa, 1989
Even if we don't actually manufacture them, we should at least have a disinformation campaign convincing them we are. Expand it to other munitions where practical, like drone launched weapons.
That and a policy that all of our snipers and drone operators will be women.

Pio1980 08-12-2016 12:14 PM

Some of what he says is reasonable, but the comments on Islam are from Western ignorance and possibly tongue in cheek.

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Wasillaguy 08-12-2016 01:03 PM

I don't think Frank suffered from much ignorance, western or otherwise. Western ignorance would be the soft touch policies we have now.
A lot of other artists thought his music was tongue in cheek too- most of whom were nowhere near as successful or well regarded.

Pio1980 08-12-2016 06:07 PM

He was a social satirist as well as an accomplished musician/ composer/ arranger/ conductor.

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BlueStreak 08-13-2016 12:40 AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hltRjapRxLI

"When the lie is so big and the fog so thick and the facts disappear, the Republican trick can be played out again.........."

BlueStreak 08-13-2016 12:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Wasillaguy (Post 327944)
I don't think Frank suffered from much ignorance, western or otherwise. Western ignorance would be the soft touch policies we have now.
A lot of other artists thought his music was tongue in cheek too- most of whom were nowhere near as successful or well regarded.

Frankie was a genius.

Boreas 08-13-2016 12:54 AM

Frankie?

Oerets 08-13-2016 05:22 AM

If killing innocents in the act of suicide bombing does little to deter the act, smelling of hog will be of little effectiveness.

But point taken by Frank on the need to use psychology as a tool to combat their ideology.


Barney

Wasillaguy 08-13-2016 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Oerets (Post 327997)
If killing innocents in the act of suicide bombing does little to deter the act, smelling of hog will be of little effectiveness.

But point taken by Frank on the need to use psychology as a tool to combat their ideology.


Barney

They are not killing innocents, they are killing infidels, for glory.

HarmanKardon 08-16-2016 01:47 AM

Sometimes it is not easy to make a distinciton between irony and seriousness when we try to understand comments by Frank. The crux of the biscuit is that there is sometimes irony in his seriousness and vice versa.


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