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piece-itpete 03-24-2010 08:02 AM

To the curb, woman!!
 
You used to be a darling, now you're just an embarrassment.

http://bsnorrell.blogspot.com/2010/0...y-sheehan.html

Pete

Sandy G 03-24-2010 09:47 AM

She's about a wingnut...Almost every time I've seen cops & demonstrators clash in cases like this, the cops will give the demonstrators AMPLE time/warning to disperse, or tell 'em to NOT cross such & such a line. THEY have much more to lose than SHE does-the hassle, the media recriminations, endless paperwork & investigations, yada, yada, yada. Mother Sheehan, I'm SURE, didn't provoke the cops at all & followed ALL their instructions to the letter...Yeah, riiiiiiiight...Maybe they just finally got tired of putting up w/her bullchit.

d-ray657 03-24-2010 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Sandy G (Post 24174)
She's about a wingnut...Almost every time I've seen cops & demonstrators clash in cases like this, the cops will give the demonstrators AMPLE time/warning to disperse, or tell 'em to NOT cross such & such a line. THEY have much more to lose than SHE does-the hassle, the media recriminations, endless paperwork & investigations, yada, yada, yada. Mother Sheehan, I'm SURE, didn't provoke the cops at all & followed ALL their instructions to the letter...Yeah, riiiiiiiight...Maybe they just finally got tired of putting up w/her bullchit.

To some extent this goes to the current problem that too many people refuse to be held accountable. She acknowledged that she crossed the barrier that had been established. (The First Amendment permits reasonable time and place restrictions). She engaged in civil disobedience. As I understand the concept of civil disobedience, those participating acknowledge that they are breaking the law, and accept the consequences. They make a sacrifice in order to protest injustice. She apparently made the sacrifice, but not willingly. It appears that she was uncivil in her disobedience.

Regards,

D-Ray

noonereal 03-24-2010 10:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by d-ray657 (Post 24177)
To some extent this goes to the current problem that too many people refuse to be held accountable. She acknowledged that she crossed the barrier that had been established. (The First Amendment permits reasonable time and place restrictions). She engaged in civil disobedience. As I understand the concept of civil disobedience, those participating acknowledge that they are breaking the law, and accept the consequences. They make a sacrifice in order to protest injustice. She apparently made the sacrifice, but not willingly. It appears that she was uncivil in her disobedience.

Regards,

D-Ray

I just feel bad for the women.

She just cannot cope with her loss.

Heartbreaking.

piece-itpete 03-24-2010 10:27 AM

It is very sad.

I remember a conversation that I overheard when I was quite young, between my dad and an older cousin.

'Uncle Bob, I'm going to join the army.'

'What if you have to fight?'

'Fight? Why would I have to fight?'

Pete

Charles 03-24-2010 11:16 AM

Shoulda stuck to bashing Boosch.

Chas

Zeke 03-24-2010 11:46 AM

Sometimes, things happen: and people are never the same...

d-ray657 03-24-2010 01:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Charles (Post 24208)
Shoulda stuck to bashing Boosch.

Chas

Who me? applying a double standard. Surely you jest.

No doubt I feel for her grief. I absolutely cannot imagine what it would be like to lose a child. I do think, however, that those who practice civil disobedience should be prepared to suffer the consequences. As Sandy pointed out, most cops have become smart enough nowadays to avoid making anyone into a martyr except as a last resort.

Regards,

D-Ray

rickr15 03-24-2010 02:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Charles (Post 24208)
Shoulda stuck to bashing Boosch.

Chas

Oddly Cindy sticks up for him.
Quote:

"This never happened to me when Bush was president."

Bush arresting her would have made a martyr. Obama is not in the same situation and if she keeps pushing the powers that be I think she will find this out. As well as racking herself up a criminal record of course.

rickr15 03-24-2010 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Zeke (Post 24214)
Sometimes, things happen: and people are never the same...

QFT Sure don't envy her life.


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