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Rajoo 10-17-2015 11:34 AM

GOP field is winnowing
 
Latest news on the GOP presidential candidates, about six of them are broke or soon to go broke. This should narrow the field very soon. Interesting that all six are career politicians while Trump, Carson and Fiorina are the front runners. So only six standing up at the next debate?

Six cash-strapped Republican White House hopefuls face tipping point
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The six are: Kentucky Senator Rand Paul, former Arkansas Governor Mike Huckabee, Louisiana Governor Bobby Jindal, former New York Governor George Pataki, South Carolina Senator Lindsey Graham and former Pennsylvania Senator Rick Santorum.
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"They are living on the edge," said Lawrence Noble, former general counsel to the Federal Election Commission."We are getting close to the time when a lot of these candidates are going to say, 'We can't do it, it can't be done,'" said Noble, now a senior attorney with the Campaign Legal Center, a campaign finance non-profit.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/...0SA2RP20151016

Rex E. 10-17-2015 11:46 AM

Is there anyone in the country that really thought any one of these six had a chance.....

Tom Joad 10-17-2015 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Rex E. (Post 290136)
Is there anyone in the country that really thought any one of these six had a chance.....

No, but I didn't think Trump or Carson had a chance either, but they are leading the field. I thought Jeb would walk away with it. He's still got a good chance though because the big money players want him.

icenine 10-17-2015 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Rex E. (Post 290136)
Is there anyone in the country that really thought any one of these six had a chance.....

Superpacs....are the candidates able to pocket money from them?

Or pay a son or daughter a $100k salary for being a campaign consultant?

Then have it go back to daddy or mommy?

CarlV 10-17-2015 12:24 PM

Great to see those asshats as much fiscally bankrupt as they are morally bankrupt. :)


Carl

Boreas 10-17-2015 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Tom Joad (Post 290138)
No, but I didn't think Trump or Carson had a chance either, but they are leading the field. I thought Jeb would walk away with it. He's still got a good chance though because the big money players want him.

I think pretty much everyone thought that Bush, or maybe Rubio, would sail into the nomination. And who knows? They still might get it after the Republican base comes out of the ether.

On the one hand, it doesn't surprise me that these three assholes - sorry, they really are assholes - have excited the Republican base. What surprises me is the amount of big money Carson and Fiorina have attracted. (Trump's using his own big money.)

Who knew billionaires could be so stupid??

Rajoo 10-17-2015 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by icenine (Post 290139)
Superpacs....are the candidates able to pocket money from them?

Or pay a son or daughter a $100k salary for being a campaign consultant?

Then have it go back to daddy or mommy?

Answer to your question is going to be murky but from the article I linked, Perry's SuperPac returned the money to the donors.

Rajoo 10-17-2015 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Boreas (Post 290142)
I think pretty much everyone thought that Bush, or maybe Rubio, would sail into the nomination. And who knows? They still might get it after the Republican base comes out of the ether.

On the one hand, it doesn't surprise me that these three assholes - sorry, they really are assholes - have excited the Republican base. What surprises me is the amount of big money Carson and Fiorina have attracted. (Trump's using his own big money.)

Who knew billionaires could be so stupid??

Infighting is brewing in Florida. :D
Trump is already battling Bush and Carly, Carson and Trump are joined at the waist, Kasich is looking on and Cruz is lurking in the background. I do love political fights, brings out the real 'me' in them.

The rivalry between Jeb Bush and Marco Rubio just burst out into the open

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The campaigns of former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush (R) and Sen. Marco Rubio (R-Florida) publicly traded barbs Thursday over the reports, each trying to outdo the other over which campaign was thriftier and in better position going forward.
So Rubio is not going to be Jeb's VP afterall? ;)

http://www.businessinsider.com/jeb-b...eports-2015-10

Boreas 10-17-2015 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by BeamOn (Post 290146)
Infighting is brewing in Florida. :D
Trump is already battling Bush and Carly, Carson and Trump are joined at the waist, Kasich is looking on and Cruz is lurking in the background. I do love political fights, brings out the real 'me' in them.

The rivalry between Jeb Bush and Marco Rubio just burst out into the open



So Rubio is not going to be Jeb's VP afterall? ;)

http://www.businessinsider.com/jeb-b...eports-2015-10

I dunno. Saint Ronnie and Rubbers had some pretty rough patches in 1980.

Rajoo 10-17-2015 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Boreas (Post 290155)
I dunno. Saint Ronnie and Rubbers had some pretty rough parches in 1980.

We have the master-protegee dynamic at work with unfulfilled promises perhaps.

Tom Joad 10-17-2015 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Boreas (Post 290142)
On the one hand, it doesn't surprise me that these three assholes - sorry, they really are assholes - have excited the Republican base. What surprises me is the amount of big money Carson and Fiorina have attracted. (Trump's using his own big money.)

Who knew billionaires could be so stupid??

According to the latest Polls Fearina is fading.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epo...tion-3823.html

She's now in 5th place behind Bush and Rubio that are duking it out for 3rd.

Boreas 10-17-2015 08:39 PM

The thing is, Bush has the cash to stay in until the crazies self destruct. Depending on how and why they blow up, Jeb! could be the beneficiary.

djv8ga 10-17-2015 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Boreas (Post 290189)
The thing is, Bush has the cash to stay in until the crazies self destruct. Depending on how and why they blow up, Jeb! could be the beneficiary.

I think he'll go broke trying to keep up.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/p...cans/73999056/

BlueStreak 10-17-2015 10:14 PM

The Republican base wants Trump because they're tired of the arrogant, self aggrandizing ways of Barak Obama.


Bwahahahahahahaaaaaaa!!!!!!!!!!

Ike Bana 10-18-2015 08:05 AM

The latest from the favorite of the 25% ultra-moronic Republican voters:

http://www.npr.org/sections/itsallpo...m_term=nprnews

And the number 2 idiot is still at 23% even though Republican voters have had 7 months to figure him out:

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“A lot of people who go into prison straight, and when they come out they’re gay.” – CNN interview on March 4, 2015
It's not even a sentence.

Can 50% of Republican voters really be this stupid? Yes!!!

Rex E. 10-18-2015 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Boreas (Post 290155)
I dunno. Saint Ronnie and Rubbers had some pretty rough patches in 1980.

They have had memory problems and honesty problems on tape for many years now and still fail to realize it's being taped....


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8hnM6xNjeU


"Just joking...." GHWB

;)

Rajoo 10-23-2015 03:40 PM

Trailing in Polls, Jeb Bush Cuts Staff and Salaries, Vowing Focus on Early States

Latest polls put him at 5% trailing the three marauders.
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Mr. Bush’s low showing in the polls prompted the Fox News host Megyn Kelly to ask him Thursday night what it would take for him to get out of the race.

“I’m not getting out,” Mr. Bush said. “I believe that we have a plan to be very competitive in the early states.”

“I’m campaigning hard, I’m campaigning with heart,” he added.
Here is a good line: It is “an unbelievable position to be twisted into from ‘shock and awe’ to aw, shucks,” this person said.

I am beginning to think that Jeb? is losing credibility and will not recover. Trump could be right, he is weak or made a mistake by going after Trump.

http://www.nytimes.com/politics/firs...-early-states/

Tom Joad 10-23-2015 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by BeamOn (Post 290808)
I am beginning to think that Jeb? is losing credibility and will not recover. Trump could be right, he is weak or made a mistake by going after Trump.

"When somebody screws you, screw them back in spades."

Donald Trump

Boreas 10-23-2015 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by BeamOn (Post 290808)
I am beginning to think that Jeb? is losing credibility and will not recover. Trump could be right, he is weak or made a mistake by going after Trump

His public demeanor suggests a degree of uncertainty and confusion, sometimes bordering on panic.

I really never had any exposure to him when he was screwing up Florida so I don't know whether he seemed more poised and self-possessed then but these days he really comes across as pretty much of a mess.

Tom Joad 10-23-2015 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Boreas (Post 290822)
His public demeanor suggests a degree of uncertainty and confusion, sometimes bordering on panic.

I really never had any exposure to him when he was screwing up Florida so I don't know whether he seemed more poised and self-possessed then but these days he really comes across as pretty much of a mess.

He was very arrogant when he was governor of Florida.

A lot like his brother when he was President, only Jeb seemed to be smarter.

I'm really surprised at his lack of competence now.

Maybe it's because he finally ran into someone that's a bigger bully than he is, Trump.

Bullies that suddenly find the tables turned on them often do fold up like a cheap suit.

Boreas 10-23-2015 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Tom Joad (Post 290828)
He was very arrogant when he was governor of Florida.

A lot like his brother when he was President, only Jeb seemed to be smarter.

I'm really surprised at his lack of competence now.

Maybe it's because he finally ran into someone that's a bigger bully than he is, Trump.

Bullies that suddenly find the tables turned on them often do fold up like a cheap suit.

I just had a thought. He may well be in a panic. He's looking down the barrel of a humiliating failure. His father was president, his brother was president and Jeb! is the one "Bar" always thought would be president.

But it looks a whole lot like he's going to have to fold his tent before the first primary. That's the sort of failure that would really spook a guy like him.


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