Happy Indigenous People's Day!
 

'Bout time we stopped honoring the monster Cristobal Colon and the inception of the American genocide.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indigenous_Peoples'_Day

It is still a Federal holiday so I am off with pay.

National Self-Loathing Day!!! Yippee.

You have a wry sense of humor.

Not at all.

On the other hand, the glorification of what Columbus did, and what he inspired, is pretty fucking loathsome.

Only in America is a guy honored for screwing up by going in the wrong direction.
So I am all for Happy whatever day and am taking the day off.

Did the Warshington Foreskins lose again? :D

They did, but took the undefeated Falcons into overtime. I'm starting to pay a little attention to them now that the self-promoting malcontent of a QB (RGIII) has been benched.

Nobody's glorifying anything. They're simply taking a day off. With the exception of July 4th, all of our secular holidays are pretty much nothing more than a day off.

As for what Columbus did, he did pretty much what all European colonizing powers did. Morever, holding his behavior over 5 centuries ago to 21st century standards is a bit disingenuous, if not self-loathing.

http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/l...htmlstory.html

California bans the use of 'Redskins' in school sports. Racist morons moan.

We are sons and daughters of Columbus. :D

Then it shouldn't matter to them if their day off is for Indigenous People's Day instead of Columbian Genocide Day.

Columbus-loathing.

Then let's celebrate Hitler Day in Israel. After all, without him, there'd be no Israel.:confused:

No, we're not. Columbus didn't discover America. He discovered the Bahamas.... and promptly set about the business of enslaving the Taino who lived there.

Self-loathing is as silly as the self-glorification myths that this 'patriotic holiday' narrative traditionally supported. Funny that you feel defensive about these myths being disrespected.

Speak for yourself. I ain't related to no Wop Guinea Dago.

I'm a Polack.

For me it's Frederick Fucking Chopin.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PAKb0nITW_4

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CRJPArjUwAE1UK7.jpg

Found this on the internet and couldn't resist. :D

Chopin Polanaise by Ignace Jan Paderewski? Well played, a double. Ok, bi-Polar.

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Emily Litella would be so perplexed that we have a special day for the ingenious.

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Again you miss the essential point.

Please instruct me, Sensei. What is this essential point of which you speak?

I'm not defensive. I'm just amused that people still give a shit about somebody in the 15th century not comporting with 21st century standards of decency.

Columbus can suck it.

But that's just my opinion.

Cortez too.

Rape, genocide and enslavement are rather consequential and extreme acts. They cannot be encompassed within the framework of standards of decency.

Neither are they quaint relics of a bygone age. Armenia, the Shoah, Pol Pot and Daesh should be ample proof of that*. These barbarities have always been with us and always will as long as we dismiss them as isolated instances of the past or, as with Columbus, ignore them totally while lionizing him as some sort of "Hero of the Western World."

*I didn't specifically mention the American genocide perpetrated against the Native Americans because I view it as a continuation of what Columbus began.

My nation invaded Iraq. I would be consumed with self-loathing if I ever at any time for one minute favored that crime against peace.

Sometimes self-loathing is not sick. Sometimes avoiding it is.

Sorry but history has a place and should be learned from, and granted still effects us to this day.


But not one of us picked the uniform we wear from birth. That should be on everyones mind when thinking about our shared history.

Every peoples have a story of injustice. The solution is to see this and try and stop it from happening again and again.



Barney

It's not about wallowing in guilt over something that happened over 500 years ago. It's about not wanting to whitewash history of our culture through the glorification of one of our worst. Columbus was a venal vainglorious monster.

lol!!!!

I don't get the day off, so I don't care.

Columbus and Magellan.........

Their most important pioneering contribution is this; They proved that you don't fall off the edge if you sail too far, which was contrary to Christian dogma at the time.

And thus, more people began to wonder if the church is full of shit...............

Bravo Boys! Whether that was your intention or not; Well done!

This is why some people hate it when you dredge history up. It tends to prove their heroes were merely human, the past was not utopian, their religion fallible to downright silly and their country was never pure. Obliterated delusions can be a tough thing for the simpleminded to deal with.

Just spend a few minutes reading Tea Party blogs. You'll see who I'm talking about............

I say we keep Columbus Day...and combine it with two other celebrations to make a new "Columbus/Manifest Destiny/Slave Market Day". There's no reason why the Italian guy should get all the notoriety when the founders and subsequent generations did such magnificent genocidal work as well.

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Excellent!

Columbus Day is all about selling mattresses. ;)

This could be the foundation of a Broadway play.

I ordered a new wall oven from Home Depot on Columbus day.

Saved about $150 bucks off the regular price!:)

Commemorating genocide has its merits after all.;):eek: