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bobabode 10-10-2015 03:32 PM

Motor Voter Registration In California
 
http://www.latimes.com/local/politic...917-story.html

Automatic voter registration becomes the law in California.
Thanks, Governor Brown. ;)

Boreas 10-10-2015 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by bobabode (Post 289343)
http://www.latimes.com/local/politic...917-story.html

Automatic voter registration becomes the law in California.
Thanks, Governor Brown. ;)

More votes for Bernie!;)

My next door neighbors have a Bernie sticker on their car and a Bernie poster in their window. They're naturalized Mexican Americans.

I love this photo, by the way. Talk about making the vote accessible!

http://www.trbimg.com/img-55fb3fe8/t...01/750/750x422

Tom Joad 10-10-2015 07:16 PM

Meanwhile, in states controlled by Republicans:

https://www.aclu.org/blog/speak-free...ything-do-race

https://www.aclu.org/blog/speak-free...e-equal-others

djv8ga 10-11-2015 01:34 AM

More lefty crap. This was done to get everybody on the jury duty list. :rolleyes:

bobabode 10-11-2015 02:05 AM

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Originally Posted by djv8ga (Post 289399)
More lefty crap. This was done to get everybody on the jury duty list. :rolleyes:

So? Serving on a jury is a civic duty and an obligation to your fellow citizens..
Somedays I wonder WTF is wrong with you so called uber patriots. :confused:

Rajoo 10-11-2015 02:22 AM

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Originally Posted by bobabode (Post 289402)
So? Serving on a jury is a civic duty and an obligation to your fellow citizens..
Somedays I wonder WTF is wrong with you so called uber patriots. :confused:

My guess is that 'voting is not expressly guaranteed in the constitution' school of thought; school may not be the right word in this situation.

bobabode 10-11-2015 02:34 AM

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Originally Posted by BeamOn (Post 289403)
My guess is that 'voting is not expressly guaranteed in the constitution' school of thought; school may not be the right word in this situation.

It should be mandatory or face a fine. I'm weird that way. ;)

68custom 10-11-2015 09:09 AM

Motor/Voter should be the law in every state, same with state issued ID cards. In the FUed state of Florida A new ID cost $25, let it expire and the crooks charge you an additional $15. think this is a ploy to keep the poor from voting?
I am a senior member now :) three years after signing up.

4-2-7 10-11-2015 10:08 AM

California opens to the door to more voter fraud with new motor voter law.
http://hotair.com/archives/2015/10/1...tor-voter-law/

bobabode 10-11-2015 10:16 AM

Hot Air.com is an appropriately named far right blog page formed by Michele Malkin. :rolleyes:

4-2-7 10-11-2015 10:17 AM

BTW you don't need to be a citizen to register a car or have a DL or ID in Cal.

4-2-7 10-11-2015 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by bobabode (Post 289427)
Hot Air.com is an appropriately named far right blog page formed by Michele Malkin. :rolleyes:

Why does the lefty LA times charge to read NEWS?

Because they are a failing propaganda rag.:rolleyes:

Boreas 10-11-2015 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by 4-2-7 (Post 289425)
California opens to the door to more voter fraud with new motor voter law.
http://hotair.com/archives/2015/10/1...tor-voter-law/

Yeah, I'll bet the amount of actual voter fraud will double!! Or triple!!! Or even Quadruple!!!!

(4 x 0 = 0)

bobabode 10-11-2015 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by 4-2-7 (Post 289429)
Why does the lefty LA times charge to read NEWS?

Because they are a failing propaganda rag.:rolleyes:

I suspect that any publication with Pulitzer prizes is considered a "propaganda rag" in rightwing bizarroland. <rolls eyes>

bobabode 10-11-2015 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Boreas (Post 289431)
Yeah, I'll bet the amount of actual voter fraud will double!! Or triple!!! Or even Quadruple!!!!

(4 x 0 = 0)

Righties continually bleat about voter fraud which is more difficult to find than unicorns farting glitter and rainbows.

Rajoo 10-11-2015 10:46 AM

Conservatism Thrives on Low Intelligence and Poor Information

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Listen to what two former Republican ideologues, David Frum and Mike Lofgren, have been saying. Frum warns that "conservatives have built a whole alternative knowledge system, with its own facts, its own history, its own laws of economics". The result is a "shift to ever more extreme, ever more fantasy-based ideology" which has "ominous real-world consequences for American society".
http://www.alternet.org/story/154082...or_information

4-2-7 10-11-2015 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by bobabode (Post 289434)
I suspect that any publication with Pulitzer prizes is considered a "propaganda rag" in rightwing bizarroland. <rolls eyes>

Well we all know lefties hand out prizes to themselves....participation awards.:rolleyes:

http://therealrevo.com/blog/wp-conte...articipant.jpg

bobabode 10-11-2015 11:12 AM

Thanks for proving my point. :rolleyes:

4-2-7 10-11-2015 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by bobabode (Post 289436)
Righties continually bleat about voter fraud which is more difficult to find than unicorns farting glitter and rainbows.

Actually, there are documentaries, how electronic polling station software can be manipulated to change the actual vote anyway they want it to go.
It doesn't take a rocket scientist to know this is being done when they have found manipulated machines.

4-2-7 10-11-2015 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by BeamOn (Post 289437)
Conservatism Thrives on Low Intelligence and Poor Information



http://www.alternet.org/story/154082...or_information

I didn't know you where conservative.:rolleyes:

bobabode 10-11-2015 11:16 AM

I suspect your tin foil hat needs retuning, dude.

4-2-7 10-11-2015 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Boreas (Post 289431)
Yeah, I'll bet the amount of actual voter fraud will double!! Or triple!!! Or even Quadruple!!!!

(4 x 0 = 0)

Well to tell the truth, if someone is so lazy to register I doubt they will go and truely vote. However it's a generated reg. that can be added in for a vote regardless if they did.

You know like all those dead people and convicts that reguraly vote democrat in dem controlled precincts.

4-2-7 10-11-2015 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by bobabode (Post 289450)
I suspect your tin foil hat needs retuning, dude.

I ran out of foil wraping the house, so I don't have any left for a hat.:rolleyes:

donquixote99 10-11-2015 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by 4-2-7 (Post 289449)
I didn't know you where conservative.:rolleyes:

Sure. One half-assed little insult negates the content--which of course you didn't read anyway, and wouldn't have understood if you did.

I don't mean because you're stupid. I mean because you'd have to admit you've been way wrong, if you understood it. Most people will go to any lengths to avoid understanding stuff like that.

Dondilion 10-11-2015 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by bobabode (Post 289427)
Hot Air.com is an appropriately named far right blog page formed by Michele Malkin. :rolleyes:

Regardless, do you believe Motor Voter will open the system to more fraud.

donquixote99 10-11-2015 11:37 AM

No. Irregular registration is one-voter-at-a-time fraud. It's way too much work for a handful of votes. No one could see that as advantageous. No one does it.

bobabode 10-11-2015 11:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dondilion (Post 289459)
Regardless, do you believe Motor Voter will open the system to more fraud.

Quote:

Originally Posted by donquixote99 (Post 289461)
No. Irregular registration is one-voter-at-a-time fraud. It's way too much work for a handful of votes. No one could see that as advantageous. No one does it.

What DQ said.

After decades of hearing wild claims of Democratic voter fraud, I'm still waiting for evidence of meaningful voter fraud. Got any?

Dondilion 10-11-2015 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by bobabode (Post 289466)
What DQ said.

After decades of hearing wild claims of Democratic voter fraud, I'm still waiting for evidence of meaningful voter fraud. Got any?

No, no evidence of meaningful fraud.

Tom Joad 10-11-2015 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by bobabode (Post 289466)
After decades of hearing wild claims of Democratic voter fraud, I'm still waiting for evidence of meaningful voter fraud. Got any?

Obama was elected twice.

Obviously that could not have happened without massive voter fraud by the Democrats. ;)

Boreas 10-11-2015 12:32 PM

Individuals making the individual decision to cast their individual vote illegally is no way to flip an election. To do that, you need access to polling data. That pretty much rules out individual action of any kind.

The whole voter fraud thing is Republican propaganda aimed at convincing the gullible and unthinking that voter ID laws are a real solution to an imaginary problem. What voter ID laws actually are is a real solution to a real problem. That problem is the fact that the Republicans haven't been able to win the popular vote in national elections for a long time and, in light of changing demographics, will be even less likely to do so in the future.

bobabode 10-11-2015 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Dondilion (Post 289473)
No, no evidence of meaningful fraud.

Thanks, my friend. Sorry for the pugnacious 'tude but I've worked the polls for years as a volunteer and realize how hard it is to commit voter fraud. Anyone who thinks as -5 does, that people are voting using dead people's ID's or mail in ballots don't understand how the process works. They often refer to ancient historical abuses that just can't happen nowadays. County Recorder's offices are tasked with striking deceased voters from the rolls as they receive death certificates from the coroner.

The security and accounting procedures in place are bullet proof in regards to computerized voting machines out here in California. We poll volunteers have to double and triple check vote tallies before packing up the machines and dropping them off at a collection center.

It's always an fun and interesting experience on election day. We always have a bunch of high school students volunteering and there's us old farts regaling them over past elections. You should try it. ;)

Boreas 10-11-2015 12:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 4-2-7 (Post 289447)
Actually, there are documentaries, how electronic polling station software can be manipulated to change the actual vote anyway they want it to go.
It doesn't take a rocket scientist to know this is being done when they have found manipulated machines.

Look, dummy, this has nothing to do with "Jose the Border Jumper" voting illegally. The problem you describe is one that is perpetrated by political operatives flipping thousands or millions of legally cast votes. Voter ID laws make it easier for them to do that.

Fucking moron!

Tom Joad 10-11-2015 12:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 4-2-7 (Post 289451)
Well to tell the truth, if someone is so lazy to register I doubt they will go and truely vote. However it's a generated reg. that can be added in for a vote regardless if they did.

You know like all those dead people and convicts that reguraly vote democrat in dem controlled precincts.

Bottom line, you support a political party that fears the will of the people.

Boreas 10-11-2015 12:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dondilion (Post 289459)
Regardless, do you believe Motor Voter will open the system to more fraud.

Nope..

Boreas 10-11-2015 02:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BeamOn (Post 289437)
Conservatism Thrives on Low Intelligence and Poor Information

http://www.alternet.org/story/154082...or_information

Another quote from the article:

Quote:

But, drawing on a sample size of several thousand, correcting for both education and socioeconomic status, the new study looks embarrassingly robust. Importantly, it shows that prejudice tends not to arise directly from low intelligence but from the conservative ideologies to which people of low intelligence are drawn. Conservative ideology is the "critical pathway" from low intelligence to racism. Those with low cognitive abilities are attracted to "rightwing ideologies that promote coherence and order" and "emphasise the maintenance of the status quo".
We see ample evidence of the validity of this study every day here. Every day. Virtually every right winger we interact with here is demonstrably stupid.

This may really piss some of us off but I'm beyond caring.....

I mean look at this exchange between bobabode and 4-2-7:

Quote:

bobabode: "Righties continually bleat about voter fraud which is more difficult to find than unicorns farting glitter and rainbows."

4-2-7: "Actually, there are documentaries, how electronic polling station software can be manipulated to change the actual vote anyway they want it to go.
It doesn't take a rocket scientist to know this is being done when they have found manipulated machines."
See, the proof of the "rampant voter fraud" by millions of "illegals" is that political operatives with access to electronic voting machines can flip millions of legal votes with a single keystroke.

And then there's this:

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But what we now see among their parties – however intelligent their guiding spirits may be – is the abandonment of any pretence of high-minded conservatism. On both sides of the Atlantic, conservative strategists have discovered that there is no pool so shallow that several million people won't drown in it. Whether they are promoting the idea that Barack Obama was not born in the US, that man-made climate change is an eco-fascist-communist-anarchist conspiracy, or that the deficit results from the greed of the poor, they now appeal to the basest, stupidest impulses, and find that it does them no harm in the polls.
At present, voters who consider themselves to be conservatives have no idea what, in the political sense, conservative really means any more than they know what liberalism, libertarianism, so************************m or Marxism does. All they "know" is that people, usually with darker skins, are trying to steal their stuff and that commie libruls are trying to help them.

mpholland 10-11-2015 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by bobabode (Post 289436)
Righties continually bleat about voter fraud which is more difficult to find than unicorns farting glitter and rainbows.

Yeah, I can't find much voter fraud, but...

https://33.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m...72p1rqatos.gif

bobabode 10-11-2015 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by mpholland (Post 289506)
Yeah, I can't find much voter fraud, but...

https://33.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m...72p1rqatos.gif

:D Didn't they start registering sasquatches up there in the PNW?

Rajoo 10-11-2015 03:48 PM

I have heard of riding off into the sunset but nothing this dramatic. :)

mpholland 10-11-2015 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by bobabode (Post 289511)
:D Didn't they start registering sasquatches up there in the PNW?

Yeah, but between Bigfoot, Sasquatch, Yeti, Harry, and the myriad other names they have, getting a government issued ID is a problem. Forest and woods aren't really adequate addresses either. I do hear once they get all that sorted out, they will be eligible for section 8 and food stamps though.

Rex E. 10-11-2015 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by mpholland (Post 289519)
Yeah, but between Bigfoot, Sasquatch, Yeti, Harry, and the myriad other names they have, getting a government issued ID is a problem. Forest and woods aren't really adequate addresses either. I do hear once they get all that sorted out, they will be eligible for section 8 and food stamps though.

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