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Boreas 10-08-2015 12:06 PM

McCarthy Takes Himself Out
 
http://www.mercurynews.com/nation-wo...aker-candidacy

I guess he figured his caucus was "untrustable".

Rajoo 10-08-2015 12:27 PM

An absolute WOW, even better than Boehner resignation. The GOP House is in disarray and out in the open, just what we need before the general election. The Oct. 22nd hearing with Hillary now will fly under the radar since this is a fight for power and may the worst candidate win. I will even settle for Pelosi. :)

I cannot help but think that Mr. Obama is chuckling to himself. :D

bobabode 10-08-2015 12:35 PM

Looks like Boehner is going to have too crawl on his belly to Nancy Pelosi for help, again. :cool:

Oerets 10-08-2015 01:12 PM

Only to be expected from the party that hates politicians and governing by a civil consensus for the good of the country.


Barney

finnbow 10-08-2015 01:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobabode (Post 288995)
Looks like Boehner is going to have to crawl on his belly to Nancy Pelosi for help, again. :cool:

Apparently, Pelosi said earlier today that the House Democrats wouldn't be helping the GOP Establishment wing with any votes for speaker. Why interrupt the enemy while they're in the midst of destroying themselves?

Boreas 10-08-2015 01:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by finnbow (Post 289013)
Apparently, Pelosi said earlier today that the House Democrats wouldn't be helping the GOP Establishment wing with any votes for speaker. Why interrupt the enemy while they're in the midst of destroying themselves?

It's a sad but accurate commentary on the state of US politics that the opposing parties regard each other as the enemy.:mad:

donquixote99 10-08-2015 02:05 PM

Pelosi should tell any Republicans who want help to vote for her for speaker.

Dondilion 10-08-2015 02:13 PM

There are 37 repub members who form an hardcore...The Freedom Caucus. This core is a bane to the establishment and carry undue influence on the election process...it wants to see a radical leader.

http://fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/t...n-boehner-out/

68custom 10-08-2015 02:31 PM

those 37 A-holes are doing a great job of making the GOP run house a joke in many peoples eyes and I am all for it, keep imploding GOP!

Pio1980 10-08-2015 02:31 PM

The Freakdom caucus?

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bobabode 10-08-2015 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by 68custom (Post 289024)
those 37 A-holes are doing a great job of making the GOP run house a joke in many peoples eyes and I am all for it, keep imploding GOP!

The 'Circular Firing Squad' continues. :D

Rajoo 10-08-2015 02:39 PM

Who Are the Mysterious Members of the House Freedom Caucus?

http://dailysignal.com/2015/09/29/wh...reedom-caucus/

BlueStreak 10-08-2015 02:58 PM

“The House Freedom Caucus gives a voice to countless Americans who feel that Washington does not represent them,”

Seeing as how those who feel unrepresented are in that predicament because they are in the minority, they shall remain perpetually unrepresented. I have no doubt that every moon barker in every extremist organization feels "unrepresented" and I hope it stays that way.

68custom 10-08-2015 03:05 PM

three of those D-bags down here in sunny Fla. Curt Clason is one district below me. wonder how many of these guys attended an ALEC conference?

Rajoo 10-08-2015 03:30 PM

They are the Sharia Caucus, last on their mind is freedom. They also seem to be underrepresented by women.

Tom Joad 10-08-2015 05:06 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lLCEUpIg8rE

bobabode 10-08-2015 07:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by finnbow (Post 289013)
Apparently, Pelosi said earlier today that the House Democrats wouldn't be helping the GOP Establishment wing with any votes for speaker. Why interrupt the enemy while they're in the midst of destroying themselves?

Call me naïve but I'm a little amazed at the sheer chaos and bloodletting being committed today in the GOP. Will the establishment conservatives even survive? This implosion is bad for the country and our reputation worldwide. :(

finnbow 10-08-2015 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by bobabode (Post 289054)
Call me naïve but I'm a little amazed at the sheer chaos and bloodletting being committed today in the GOP. Will the establishment conservatives even survive? This implosion is bad for the country and our reputation worldwide. :(

It was bound to occur at some time. The establishment wing represents big business and the Tea Party wing represents the racists, religious zealots, homophobes and gun nuts the Establishment has been recruiting for the past 50 years and maintaining on a diet of talk radio and Fox News. The inmates now want to take over control of the asylum.

Dondilion 10-08-2015 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by finnbow (Post 289056)
It was bound to occur at some time. The establishment wing represents big business and the Tea Party wing represents the racists, religious zealots, homophobes and gun nuts the Establishment has been recruiting for the past 50 years and maintaining on a diet of talk radio and Fox News. The inmates now want to take over control of the asylum.

It is also the manifest frustration set against the euphoria of the Mid Term election.

bobabode 10-08-2015 07:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by finnbow (Post 289056)
It was bound to occur at some time. The establishment wing represents big business and the Tea Party wing represents the racists, religious zealots, homophobes and gun nuts the Establishment has been recruiting for the past 50 years and maintaining on a diet of talk radio and Fox News. The inmates now want to take over control of the asylum.

I need a bourbon and some popcorn for this mutiny. ;)

These fecking crazies are going to do some lasting harm to the economy before they're done. I hope the sane Repubs start tossing 'em into a woodchipper posthaste. :rolleyes:

finnbow 10-08-2015 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by bobabode (Post 289065)
I need a bourbon and some popcorn for this mutiny. ;)

These fecking crazies are going to do some lasting harm to the economy before they're done. I hope the sane Repubs start tossing 'em into a woodchipper posthaste. :rolleyes:

If Boehner would have had the balls to shitcan the silly Hastert Rule, he would have been able to relegate the Neanderthals to the peanut gallery.

Dondilion 10-08-2015 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by finnbow (Post 289066)
If Boehner would have had the balls to shitcan the silly Hastert Rule, he would have been able to relegate the Neanderthals to the peanut gallery.

HASTERT RULE

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hastert_Rule

bobabode 10-08-2015 08:20 PM

http://www.esquire.com/news-politics...licans-id-ego/ :D

djv8ga 10-08-2015 08:24 PM

Just like I said Finn. I told you he wouldn't last long.

Rajoo 10-08-2015 11:08 PM

The Trumpster waylaid McCarthy?
Quote:

Donald Trump: "They're giving me a lot of credit"

"[Y]ou know Kevin McCarthy is out. You know that, right? They're giving me a lot of credit for that because I said you really need somebody very, very tough and very smart. You know smart goes with tough - not just tough. I know tough people. They're not smart, that's the worst, okay. That's the worst. You got to be smart. But, we need smart, we need tough, we need the whole package. And it's a positive." -- at a campaign event in Las Vegas
So who does the GOP have that's tough and smart?

Pio1980 10-08-2015 11:32 PM

Does this guy just get dumber every time that awful noise comes out, or is it just getting more obvious.

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Rajoo 10-09-2015 11:44 AM

An entertaining read.

House Republicans should elect Mitt Romney speaker. No, really.

http://www.vox.com/2015/10/9/9484993...romney-speaker

bobabode 10-09-2015 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by BeamOn (Post 289123)
An entertaining read.

House Republicans should elect Mitt Romney speaker. No, really.

http://www.vox.com/2015/10/9/9484993...romney-speaker

I heard some chatter about bringing back the original shut down king, Newt Gingivitis, for speaker. :rolleyes:

donquixote99 10-09-2015 12:09 PM

Hmmm...I guess there's no requirement that the Speaker be a member of the House....

Rajoo 10-09-2015 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by donquixote99 (Post 289129)
Hmmm...I guess there's no requirement that the Speaker be a member of the House....

Wow! Thanks Don.
From Wiki, "The Constitution does not require that the Speaker be an elected House Representative, though every Speaker so far has been an elected Member of Congress."

So speaker Romney it is. :)

Boreas 10-09-2015 12:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by donquixote99 (Post 289129)
Hmmm...I guess there's no requirement that the Speaker be a member of the House....

Quote:

The Constitution does not require that the Speaker be an elected House Representative, though every Speaker so far has been an elected Member of Congress. The Speaker is second in the United States presidential line of succession, after the Vice President and ahead of the President pro tempore of the U.S. Senate.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speake...epresentatives

Who knew? The House sure is a loose cannon.

donquixote99 10-09-2015 01:46 PM

I think it's kind of wild that #3 in the line of presidential succession can be appointed by the majority in the House, without necessarily having ever been elected to anything.

Dondilion 10-09-2015 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by donquixote99 (Post 289173)
I think it's kind of wild that #3 in the line of presidential succession can be appointed by the majority in the House, without necessarily having ever been elected to anything.

Damn! Time to fix that.

Boreas 10-09-2015 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by donquixote99 (Post 289173)
I think it's kind of wild that #3 in the line of presidential succession can be appointed by the majority in the House, without necessarily having ever been elected to anything.

"Wild" doesn't do justice to a provision that would allow for the succession to the presidency of a "democratic republic" a person who was never elected to any office by any number of people. It's completely insane.

Of course, the whole idea of having the Speaker 3rd in line is pretty nuts too. The average size of a Congressional district is roughly 711,000 people. The percentage of the population which is of voting age is about 76% so each Congressional district contains around 540,000 eligible voters. That means that, in a close election, the Speaker of the House could have been elected to the House by something like 270,000 votes, or about .09% of the population. How does that person deserve the presidency?

donquixote99 10-09-2015 03:16 PM

The Speaker of the House has a long but interrupted history in the line of succession. He was placed there by the Presidential Succession Act of 1792, but behind the Senate President Pro-Tem. Congress took both offices out of the line in 1886. Truman got both back in, Speaker first, in the 1947 Presidential Succession Act. That Act was extended and elaborated, and made into the 25th Amendment, in 1967.

http://www.senate.gov/artandhistory/...ession_Act.htm

icenine 10-09-2015 03:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by donquixote99 (Post 289173)
I think it's kind of wild that #3 in the line of presidential succession can be appointed by the majority in the House, without necessarily having ever been elected to anything.

Obama was going to do that at first, but changed to the born in Hawaii strategy for exactly the reason you mentioned.;)

Rajoo 10-11-2015 02:49 AM

Can this be true, why they dumped McCarthy and now picked Ryan?

The affair allegations that derailed Kevin McCarthy's quest for the speakership, explained

Quote:

On October 7, GOP Rep. Walter Jones sent a cryptic letter to fellow Republicans calling on any members of Congress guilty of "misdeeds" to step aside and making reference to former Rep. Bob Livingston, who back in 1999 was forced to abandon the House GOP leadership in the wake of the revelation of an affair.
Quote:

Then, just before 8 am on the morning of October 8, Steve Baer, an influential conservative donor and activist known for his ties to the right wing of the party, sent an email to McCarthy, Ellmers, and others threatening to expose the alleged affair.
Hours later, McCarthy unexpectedly withdrew from the race, the leadership elections were canceled, and the caucus was thrown into chaos.
http://www.vox.com/2015/10/9/9488323...ellmers-affair

bobabode 10-11-2015 03:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BeamOn (Post 289406)
Can this be true, why they dumped McCarthy and now picked Ryan?

The affair allegations that derailed Kevin McCarthy's quest for the speakership, explained

http://www.vox.com/2015/10/9/9488323...ellmers-affair


That's the story floating around the rightwing blogosphere that I've seen.
So far, Paul Ryan wants nothing to do with the Speakership.
That Ayn Rand weasel wants to be president one day, as if that'll ever happen. :rolleyes:

bobabode 10-11-2015 11:29 AM

http://www.trbimg.com/img-5617630a/t...01/500/500x281

"Kevin McCarthy has decided he does not want the thankless task of babysitting a bunch of grown men who have less good sense than a gang of 13-year-old boys left alone in a liquor store. So he shocked his Republican colleagues and the entire political world on Thursday by turning down the chance to be speaker of the House mere minutes before he was to be nominated for the job." LATimes
http://www.latimes.com/opinion/topof...008-story.html

Tom Joad 10-11-2015 05:28 PM

This puts Boehner in the drivers seat.

He can now tell the freedom caucus to pound sand.

What are they gonna do?

Fire him?


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