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4-2-7 09-25-2015 08:40 AM

Boehner to Resign in October
 
Good he totally sucked......

So who is stepping up?

finnbow 09-25-2015 08:46 AM

This should prove very interesting - a knockdown, drag-out fight for the soul of the GOP. Is it the corporate lackeys of the establishment wing or the divorced-from-reality Teabaggers. There Will Be Blood.

http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/...8_1129330a.jpg

JCricket 09-25-2015 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by finnbow (Post 286762)
This should prove very interesting - a knockdown, drag-out fight for the soul of the GOP. Is it the corporate lackeys of the establishment wing or the divorced-from-reality Teabaggers. There Will Be Blood.
http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/...8_1129330a.jpg

Hopefully they will hemorrhage, bleed to death, and a new party standard will arise - just dreaming I know.

Tom Joad 09-25-2015 09:21 AM

Awesome!

I hope he gets replaced with the most batshit crazy bagger there is.

Rajoo 09-25-2015 09:22 AM

House Speaker Boehner to resign from Congress at end of October
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The Ohio lawmaker, 65, stunned Republican House members at a morning meeting with the announcement he will step down from the speakership, the top job in the 435-seat chamber, and resign his seat in Congress effective on Oct. 30.

U.S. Representative Kevin McCarthy of California, the No. 2 Republican in the House, is expected to be the leading contender to replace Boehner as speaker, Republican Representative Peter King told reporters.
Related Coverage
http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/...0RP1GT20150925

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Originally Posted by JCricket (Post 286765)
Hopefully they will hemorrhage, bleed to death, and a new party standard will arise - just dreaming I know.

May your dream come true. :)

Tom Joad 09-25-2015 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by 4-2-7 (Post 286761)
So who is stepping up?

Hopefully someone just like you.

icenine 09-25-2015 09:28 AM

Maybe the GOP will pick the David Duke guy without the baggage. Isn't he number three?
There is always those Dixiecrats like Goehmert or xenophobes like King from Iowa.

Rajoo 09-25-2015 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Tom Joad (Post 286768)
Hopefully someone just like you.

A perfect comeback. :D
Seriously a bagger does not have a chance but there will be a fight, hopefully a long and bloody fight into 2016. Question I have to the OP is why would any sane person want to 'step up'. So only crazies need to apply.

djv8ga 09-25-2015 10:03 AM

McCarthy will be as bad if not worse. :rolleyes:

finnbow 09-25-2015 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by djv8ga (Post 286777)
McCarthy will be as bad if not worse... :rolleyes:

... at herding dyspeptic cats.

donquixote99 09-25-2015 10:10 AM

http://www.politico.com/story/2015/0...october-214056

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Now that he doesn't have internal political considerations to weigh, Boehner is certain to push through a government-funding bill next week that funds Planned Parenthood and keeps the government open.

“I have been doing this for 27 years, and this is the most selfless act that I have ever seen,” said Rep. Lynn Westmoreland, a George Republican who is close with both Boehner and McCarthy. Rep. Jeb Hensarling (R-Texas), a former member of leadership who has clashed with Boehner, also called the Ohio Republican’s move “one of the selfless acts I’ve seen in politics.”

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2015/0...#ixzz3mlNE0dHR
I think I'm leaning towards this interpretation--with a little less hype, the selflessness must be tempered by recognizing the attraction of a cozy retirement from a stressful job, as well as going out doing a Good Thing. But if he's spared us a shutdown fight over Planned Parenthood, that's good for everyone--not least the Republicans, of course....

djv8ga 09-25-2015 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by finnbow (Post 286780)
... at herding dyspeptic cats.

McCarthy won't last.

Ike Bana 09-25-2015 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by 4-2-7 (Post 286761)
Good he totally sucked...

No doubt sick of dealing with the likes of you, 5 below.
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Originally Posted by 4-2-7 (Post 286761)
So who is stepping up?

Who gives a shit.

Boreas 09-25-2015 11:06 AM

As soon as I heard the news, Hensarling's name ran through my brain. Not something you'd really want first thing in the morning.

Rajoo 09-25-2015 11:14 AM

Rep. Paul Ryan says he does not want House speakership

Smart guy.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/...0RP1MS20150925

4-2-7 09-25-2015 12:18 PM

So who has a government job? Sucking up taxes that isn't needed. Could it be he doesn't want to be head of the shutdown?

Tom Joad 09-25-2015 12:49 PM

So Boner who was once considered far right as one of Gingrich's gang of seven that gave us the "Contract on America" has now been run out of Dodge for being a RINO. That shows you just how far to the right the Republican Party has moved.

finnbow 09-25-2015 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by 4-2-7 (Post 286798)
So who has a government job? Sucking up taxes that isn't needed. ?

Louie Gohmert, Ted Cruz, Pete Sessions, Steve Scalise, Dan Burton, Mike Pence, Joe Wilson, Mike Lee .......

mpholland 09-25-2015 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Tom Joad (Post 286799)
So Boner who was once considered far right as one of Gingrich's gang of seven that gave us the "Contract on America" has now been run out of Dodge for being a RINO. That shows you just how far to the right the Republican Party has moved.

Good thing for them the world was proved not to be flat.

bobabode 09-25-2015 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by finnbow (Post 286800)
Louie Gohmert, Ted Cruz, Pete Sessions, Steve Scalise, Dan Burton, Mike Pence, Joe Wilson, Mike Lee .......

Bam! :D

I'm hoping this guy gets the nod.

https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/i...NJmQUFMWgw3eRQ

bobabode 09-25-2015 01:12 PM

http://www.esquire.com/news-politics...unning-asylum/

The inimitable Charlie Pierce... ;)

"Welcome to the monkeyhouse, America. The prion disease afflicting the Republican party finally has devoured the last vestiges of the Republican party's higher functions. I had as many problems with Boehner as Speaker as anyone did, but, dammit, he at least believed that the government should keep running. And, as much as the Times wants to believe it, this has nothing to do with the "challenges of divided government," and everything to do with the fact that the modern Republican party, especially in the House of Representatives, is completely demented."

icenine 09-25-2015 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by finnbow (Post 286800)
Louie Gohmert, Ted Cruz, Pete Sessions, Steve Scalise, Dan Burton, Mike Pence, Joe Wilson, Mike Lee .......

Amazing isn't....all these government workers trying to "clean up Washington":rolleyes:

BlueStreak 09-25-2015 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by 4-2-7 (Post 286761)
Good he totally sucked......

So who is stepping up?

You're an ass, IMHO.

BlueStreak 09-25-2015 03:07 PM

An interesting turn of events, but whether it turns out to be a good thing or not remains to be seen.

BlueStreak 09-25-2015 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by bobabode (Post 286804)
http://www.esquire.com/news-politics...unning-asylum/

The inimitable Charlie Pierce... ;)

"Welcome to the monkeyhouse, America. The prion disease afflicting the Republican party finally has devoured the last vestiges of the Republican party's higher functions. I had as many problems with Boehner as Speaker as anyone did, but, dammit, he at least believed that the government should keep running. And, as much as the Times wants to believe it, this has nothing to do with the "challenges of divided government," and everything to do with the fact that the modern Republican party, especially in the House of Representatives, is completely demented."

Pretty much how I see it.

Tom Joad 09-25-2015 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by BlueStreak (Post 286821)
Pretty much how I see it.

Same here.

The Republican Party is in a self destructive death spiral.

Boreas 09-25-2015 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Tom Joad (Post 286822)
Same here.

The Republican Party is in a self destructive death spiral.

Given their present irredeemable state, I have to believe that would be best for the country but I don't think they're going anywhere. There are too many voters in too many Gerrymandered states who like them just the way they are. If anything is in a death spiral, it's the country as a whole.

finnbow 09-25-2015 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by icenine (Post 286806)
Amazing isn't....all these government workers trying to "clean up Washington":rolleyes:

Republicans run on a platform that government is broken and dysfunctional and, when elected, do their damnedest to prove it.

BlueStreak 09-25-2015 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Boreas (Post 286823)
Given their present irredeemable state, I have to believe that would be best for the country but I don't think they're going anywhere. There are too many voters in too many Gerrymandered states who like them just the way they are. If anything is in a death spiral, it's the country as a whole.

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Originally Posted by finnbow (Post 286828)
Republicans run on a platform that government is broken and dysfunctional and, when elected, do their damnedest to prove it.

Exactly.

The GOP has spent decades courting lunatics, idiots and the ruthlessly greedy simply to get their votes without ever delivering on promises made. Now, the bill has come due. The crazies want exactly what they have been voting for.

I'm thinking that unless we are very, very lucky what replaces Boehner will be far worse.

finnbow 09-25-2015 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by BlueStreak (Post 286829)
Exactly.

The GOP has spent decades courting lunatics, idiots and haters simply to get their votes without ever delivering on promises made. Now, the bill has come due. The crazies want exactly what they have been voting for.

I'm thinking that unless we are very, very lucky what replaces Boehner will be far worse.

It'll likely be McCarthy, despite considerable squawking from the 'Bagger caucus and their cheerleaders on Talk Radio. He'll likely prove even weaker than Boehner in dealing with the Baggers.

Meanwhile, Ted Cruz will become de facto leader of the House 'Bagger faction (if he isn't already). It's gonna get ugly/silly, to the definite benefit of the Democrats. The circular firing squad is going to be throwing hand grenades.

Boreas 09-25-2015 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by finnbow (Post 286830)
It'll likely be McCarthy, despite considerable squawking from the 'Bagger caucus and their cheerleaders on Talk Radio. He'll likely prove even weaker than Boehner in dealing with the Baggers.

I think it'll be Hensarling as the compromise candidate. He's alreaady in the leadership and would be more acceptable to the 'baggers than McCarthy.

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Meanwhile, Ted Cruz will become de facto leader of the House 'Bagger faction (if he isn't already). It's gonna get ugly/silly, to the definite benefit of the Democrats. The circular firing squad is going to be throwing hand grenades.
Yes, I think he already is. I find it astonishing that Cruz is allowed to get away with openly meddling in the business of the Lower House. It's a clear indication, IMO, of the utter weakness and ineptitude of the Senate Republican leadership that he hasn't been reined in.

ebacon 09-25-2015 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by bobabode (Post 286804)
http://www.esquire.com/news-politics...unning-asylum/

The inimitable Charlie Pierce... ;)

"Welcome to the monkeyhouse, America. The prion disease afflicting the Republican party finally has devoured the last vestiges of the Republican party's higher functions. I had as many problems with Boehner as Speaker as anyone did, but, dammit, he at least believed that the government should keep running. And, as much as the Times wants to believe it, this has nothing to do with the "challenges of divided government," and everything to do with the fact that the modern Republican party, especially in the House of Representatives, is completely demented."


Interesting.

You all are clearly more in tune with politics than I am.

When it comes to Republican party rhetoric my mind keeps flashing back to an old article on religious camps, as in summer camps for kids. Someone, somewhere, discovered that people want a serious, quiet, and contemplative forum. How that compares with the latest polls I have no idea. But the article stuck with me because serious, quiet, and contemplative is what I hoped for in the Republican party. Instead the party got noisier until I had to leave; not just the party, but politics in general.

It will be a while until I vote again.

finnbow 09-25-2015 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Boreas (Post 286831)
I think it'll be Hensarling as the compromise candidate. He's alreaady in the leadership and would be more acceptable to the 'baggers than McCarthy.

Could be, but there are plenty of establishment types totally pissed and frustrated with the Baggers (e.g., Peter King) and may prove unwilling to throw them a bone.

bobabode 09-25-2015 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by ebacon (Post 286832)
Interesting.

You all are clearly more in tune with politics than I am.

When it comes to Republican party rhetoric my mind keeps flashing back to an old article on religious camps, as in summer camps for kids. Someone, somewhere, discovered that people want a serious, quiet, and contemplative forum. How that compares with the latest polls I have no idea. But the article stuck with me because serious, quiet, and contemplative is what I hoped for in the Republican party. Instead the party got noisier until I had to leave; not just the party, but politics in general.

It will be a while until I vote again.

We did those summer camps up in the Angeles Forest (Methodist) when I was kid. Fun times. :)

Please reconsider voting, Ed. We lefties need all the help we can get.

bobabode 09-25-2015 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by finnbow (Post 286833)
Could be, but there are plenty of establishment types totally pissed and frustrated with the Baggers (e.g., Peter King) and may prove unwilling to throw them a bone.

I hope so. I'd love to see a strong Repub speaker put these nihinistic, bitter ender Teabagger punks in their place.

Boreas 09-25-2015 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by bobabode (Post 286838)
Please reconsider voting, Ed. We lefties need all the help we can get.

Yes, even if the help is in the form of voting for sane and civil Republicans. There will always be.... should always be a conservative party as a counterbalance to the liberals and vice versa. We don't have that now.

bobabode 09-25-2015 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Boreas (Post 286840)
Yes, even if the help is in the form of voting for sane and civil Republicans. There will always be.... should always be a conservative party as a counterbalance to the liberals and vice versa. We don't have that now.

Agreed. Well said, old friend.

Rajoo 09-25-2015 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by ebacon (Post 286832)
Interesting.

You all are clearly more in tune with politics than I am.

When it comes to Republican party rhetoric my mind keeps flashing back to an old article on religious camps, as in summer camps for kids. Someone, somewhere, discovered that people want a serious, quiet, and contemplative forum. How that compares with the latest polls I have no idea. But the article stuck with me because serious, quiet, and contemplative is what I hoped for in the Republican party. Instead the party got noisier until I had to leave; not just the party, but politics in general.

It will be a while until I vote again.

You can claim to support Trump and all the lefties here will forgive you for your sins.:)

bobabode 09-25-2015 09:42 PM

I was reading this over at ThinkProgress...yeah, I know but it seemed like a fairly accurate reading of the situation by Ian Millhiser.

"John Boehner May Have Been The Only Thing Standing Between America And Madness"

http://thinkprogress.org/justice/201...a-and-madness/

Tom Joad 09-26-2015 01:46 PM

http://www.thedailybeast.com/article...s-leaving.html

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White Supremacist groups are happy to see John Boehner go. They can’t think of anyone to replace him, but they are glad he is gone, nonetheless.

White supremacist leaders took to social media to celebrate the resignation of House Speaker John Boehner on Friday morning, a “cuckservative” whose tenure didn’t focus enough on “the replacement of whites by non-whites through immigration and higher birthrates.”
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“Whites are objectively more useful to the country than blacks or Hispanics in terms of crime rates, welfare dependency, labor-force productivity, etc. This is obviously true but everyone is too terrified to say so,” Jared Taylor, the President of the New Century Foundation, told The Daily Beast.
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Taylor believes the “replacement of whites by non-whites” is “the greatest long-term threat to conservatives.”
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