"How Americans Really Feel About Stronger Gun Laws"
 

"Background checks for all gun sales, not just those sold in stores, are supported by 85 percent of respondents, Pew’s poll found. Laws meant to stop mentally ill people from buying guns have support from 79 percent, while 70 percent support a federal database tracking gun sales. A fourth proposal — banning assault-style firearms — is supported by a majority of Americans (57 percent), but the margin is slimmer." WaPo

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...aborative_3_na

...and then there's this guy, Andy Parker, father of Alison Parker.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...74b_story.html

Lil' Wayne must be very pouty right now.

Basically California's laws on the books the past 25+ years.

There's no ban on AR15s and other assault weapons here in California. :confused:

Who and what defines an assault weapon? All weapons can be an assault weapon if that's what you use it for.

In Cal and the leader of the nations gun laws it was based on magazine capacity and some stock styles. Politician coined the lable "Assault Weapon" because of their ignorance.

Pistols were reduced from 15 rounds to 10 max.

Rifles I think like the AR went to 10 rounds max as well.

These laws are "bans" and made the weapon not a assault wheapon.

But yeah that proposal that they did the poll with is our laws since about 1985. Wasn't it a bit over a year that kid down south went on a killing rampage for being picked on in collage. He used a Knife, Car and a Pistols he didn't need an "Assault Weapon" to kill about 6 people.

High capacity rapid fire tactical weaponry as per military application does not belong in general public ownership unless vetted, as are full automatic fire and silencer equipped firearms.

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You can get in your car and drive a couple hundred miles to Arizona or Nevada and buy virtually any assault weapon you want at a gun show with zero background check. California's gun laws don't mean diddly squat Dan and you know it.

BTW we have had background checks for over 25 years. Unles a person has been commited to an institution for mental illness or broke the law because of their illness there will be nothing on the background check.

Doctor are requiered by law to keep patient confidentiality. In other words a compleat loonatics that has never been commited to a state or federal institution will not show up on background checks.

If any laws need changing it's this one as it will get peopel help that need it and keep society safer.

Just head on over to Nevada or Arizona and you can buy any high cap magazine you want, dude and you know it.

California law doesn't do shit to stop it. Gimme a break, I may have been born in the morning but it wasn't this morning.

I can? Have you ever heard of ATF?

It's ilegal to transport drugs and firearm over state lines without proper paperwork/permits. If your willing to do that your a criminal already.

I have no problem with the rest of the country having the same laws we do here, I'v been living under them anyway. I just brought up what your post polled on is what we have here anyway. It doesn't stop anything!!!

Due to a recent decision in the 9th Circuit court out here, our local Orange county sheriff has been handing out CC permits like they were prizes in a Cracker Jacks box. :(

Time to move before I get caught in the crossfire on the freeways out here.

That's what we have here Steve already, it realy doesn't take a federal law, states should be able to what's right for them as per their voters.

Buy a fast car...go full blown Mad Max:eek:

PS: Do you have a bunker built yet?

Really thou you might be greatful one day that someone has a CC permit and saves your ass.

Whatever, dude...if you think the ATF&E is anything more than a paper tiger, you've got rocks in your head, man.

Fourth of July looks like a freakin' downtown Baghdad around here. Just head on over to Arizona and stock up on all the mortars and rockets you want. :rolleyes:

I have a cc and sincerely hope to never have to use a firearm for defence.

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Can you get me some? around here your lucky to get away with a sparkler and not spend the night in jail.

No wonder you all have so many firers down there. we're a bit more civilized up here.;)

One of the Navy x-ray tech students I was monitoring last week bought one here. I think they cannot be fully automatic.

Come to Californa Steve we need you here.

Nobody would want to be in a position to reallly need to pull a gun on someone but if it's you or them a choice needs to be made.

Jesus Christ all you liberals have guns WTF:confused:

Go figure.:eek:

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I wish! All we are allowed to have are sparklers & fountains. :rolleyes:

You're right, it's Nevada. So, how do you feel about closing the gun show loophole?

We have a notorious and very active black market arms supply pipeline down here feeding the Northeast thru the loopholes that needs to be shut down.

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Don't view it as a loophole.

It's a free market right? :rolleyes:

Wonder what the punishment would be if I had a concealed unregistered loaded handgun in California. Or the requisite amount of Mary Jane to be considered illegal.

The handgun would be taken you would be charged a mistimeaner that carries a small fine.

The weed they might take for their own use and tell you to get lost.

Same here in Iowa as some other states:
New laws have sheriffs handing out licenses like candy - actually, they can't deny anymore without some serious documentation. Meaning, in the past, it was up to their discretion, if they knew the guy was a known hot-head, they could deny. Not anymore.

Gun shows - I've seen several types of guns (never semi-A's) sold at gun shows by private individuals, these type of sales require zero background check. ZERO. NONE.

It really came home to me the time, about a year ago, I'm in the "5th Street Pub" here in Des Moines, and a revolver falls out of an old guy's pocket, and lands on the floor, hitting the bar stool hardware on the way down. IMO, that's just fucking nuts.

I will wait for a qualified answer.
Edit: I looked it up. Carrying a concealed weapon (1st offense) is the same as carrying over an ounce of marijuana, both misdemeanors in general terms.

I'm qualified as I had that exact charge that's why I know. Second offence would be a fellony.:rolleyes:

We have no loopholes at gun shows in Cal, hell there isn't any gun at the shows here now.

Back in the day they had palets full of old military surplus, SKS stacked 10' tall, crates of ammo.

You got flippant with the marijuana answer so you disqualified yourself. I was comparing the charges/punishment between the two here in CA.

Cops smoke weed LOL, if your in San Francisco their not going to wast their time taking you in and writing a report for a bag of weed.

Perzactly. We were talking about Aridzona and Nevada where the loophole is big enough to drive a semi through it. Try to keep up. ;)

You still don't get it do you? I was trying to point out that the punishment for carrying a gun vs. an ounce+ marijuana is the same except I could kill with the gun. Try not to post (by quoting me) if you cannot understand nor add to the conversation.

I am not really interested in your opinion if it is not qualified and it seldom is. You seem to post as if you were swatting a fly.

Your the one that posted a Nation Wide Poll but you keep just talking about AZ.

I just brought up that CA. is the model of the Law.

No you still don't understand.

If you read my post above the punishment is not the same at all.

You get aressted with the gun, you loose the gun, you go to court and get a fine and have it on your record.

The weed none of the above will happen.

Eventually, there will be no choice. The harder they resist the uglier it will be when the time for tolerating the gun lobbies bullshit will run out. They are turning this country into a giant Somalia and it needs to stop.

There is only one reason why this country even has such a horrendous problem in the first place---The 2nd Amendment as we currently interpret it. It may have been somewhat of a necessity 240 years ago, but it is an extreme burden today and it needs to go away.

If you don't like it........Leave.....or use that last bullet on yourself, I don't really care which.

Such a wonderfull mood tonight Dave.

Did you go out the other night and see the supper moon?

Pretty sure it was Hitler(coined the name Assault Rifle "Sturmgewehr") around 1943 with the MP43/StG44....

All military and like weapons since have looked and performed similar.

The term assault rifle is generally attributed to Adolf Hitler, who for propaganda purposes used the German word "Sturmgewehr" (which translates to "assault rifle"), as the new name for the MP43, subsequently known as the Sturmgewehr 44 or StG 44. Other sources dispute that Hitler had much to do with coining the new name besides signing the production order. The StG 44 is generally considered the first selective fire military rifle to popularize the assault rifle concept. Today, the term assault rifle is used to define firearms sharing the same basic characteristics as the StG 44

In a strict definition, a firearm must have at least the following characteristics to be considered an assault rifle
It must be an individual weapon
It must be capable of selective fire
It must have an intermediate-power cartridge: more power than a pistol but less than a standard rifle or battle rifle
Its ammunition must be supplied from a detachable box magazine
And it should have an effective range of at least 300 metres (330 yards)
Rifles that meet most of these criteria, but not all, are technically not assault rifles despite frequently being called such.

For example:
Select-fire M2 Carbines are not assault rifles; their effective range is only 200 meters.
Select-fire rifles such as the FN FAL battle rifle are not assault rifles; they fire full-powered rifle cartridges.
Semi-automatic-only rifles like variants of the Colt AR-15 are not assault rifles; they do not have select-fire capabilities.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assault_rifle

If you are trying to imitate 427 you're going to have to make a lot more spelling errors than that.