They're all Thugs
 

Keep the pressure up.

Record them and make them famous on youtube.:mad:

https://www.yahoo.com/tech/s/dashcam...232229171.html

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=asnL...ature=youtu.be

And his cop buddies back him to the hilt.

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/...ective/399860/

Like I said, they're all THUGS.

They all think they are above the law and can act in any manner that they choose with impunity.

That's just it, because of the attitude of so many Americans.......they can.

You see, we are all supposed to give thanks to the Lord our God that he sent these brave heroes to circumvent due process and the Constitution in the name of protecting us from ourselves.

Heil Ronnie!

Dave

Meh.

Drive safe.

Face it, a cops worst enemy now is a law abiding citizen armed with a phone camera. Their own website too.
So much for your meh. Eventually cities will get tired of doling out the settlements.

http://photographyisnotacrime.com/20...ns-settlement/

http://pinac-cdn.pinac.netdna-cdn.co...shortened2.jpg

Good site.

Thanks for the link.

And they're pretty much correct.

Hence "meh."

Good guys win, again...

Trollin' trollin' trollin'.... :rolleyes:

Rawhide!!!!!

But not truthfully trolling.

The percentage of such, ahem, "cases" is incredibly low: especially those where any wrongdoing actually occurred.

Paying $15K (for example) is merely a fee to go away, the equivalent of a $50 citation you don't feel like fighting. Actual guilt would have demanded more $$$.

Interesting that you think this asshole detective in Mass is a "good guy".

Interesting but far from surprising.

He's at least as good as whom he pulled over...

Ah, in Zeke World, a 'flaming asshole' is at worst equivalent to a 'guy who gets confused by a roundabout in a strange town after dark.' This would be, of course, because the flaming asshole is a cop, while the confused guy is just a citizen.

Last I checked we don't live in a police state. Having been hassled most of my adult life by the authorities, just because of my long hair, beard. Both could be remedied if wanted.

Pulled over searched left having to put the contents back into my van many times. Had guns drawn, handcuffed arrested. Trust me I shut my mouth and went to court. Let go. Knowing full well what might happen, wife seeing a 22 I never owned in my dead hand. Nothing worse then having a overzealous power hungry gun totin person in authority bulling you.


Finally they will now have to think before they act.


Barney

.... deserves to get a hole blown in his fucking head.

Only if they earn it via action(s).

Would you say the citizen in this case even earned the THREAT of having a hole blown in their head? Answer this question, do not evade!

Make an officer fear for his life in any manner that can be articulated?

Deadly force is justified.

What's the standard on fear? Is it necessary to feel like your stomach just departed for the center of the earth, or would a quite mild reaction, sort of as one might feel on backing into a doorknob, be enough to justify blowing someone's brains out?

The same as it is for anything in a court of law, the "reasonable person" standard.

Mere hand-waving. We're talking about people going to jail, or getting shot dead. We need a real, defined standard here. A reasonable person would ... what? Would feel so scared their bowels let loose? Would feel 50% of 'bowels let loose?' Would feel the slightest discernible level of apprehension? What?

I shouldn't have titled this "They're all Thugs".

I was just trolling Zeke with that because I don't like him.

I don't have many encounters with Police because I am very law abiding and don't go looking for trouble. Most of the Police I have encountered have been fine, but there have been a few assholes. In those cases I have just remained calm and not given them an excuse to escalate.

But there is no doubt that this Cop was in the wrong.

You don't go threatening to shoot people in the head for a minor traffic violation.

This guy is not in control of his emotions and he is not fit to be out on the street carrying a gun.

This has gone too far to the right literally and figuratively. This will take some time to move back to the center. Citizen's video cannot be stopped. More and more law enforcements will be forced into wearing lapel and dashboard cameras. Technology will continue to improve as costs keep coming down. No one can stop it, this is too late.

Eventually cities will tire paying out victim compensations. Lots of lawyers out there circling PD for possible damage lawsuits, too much money to be had so easily. This cannot be stopped either. Lawyer work for money first and upholding the law second.

As usual in a capitalist society, it is usually money that brings about a semblance of balance. A definition of fear will lead to more talk but little action.

My point is that the 'fear' standard is subjective, and basically ridiculous, except that the consequences are so terrible.

Subjective?

Sure.

But I trust a P.O.S.T. certified, trained, observant and able to articulate law enforcement officer infinitely more than John Q.

You side with the law breaker.

No issue beyond one of us is legally right. Morally? Well, if you don't always like the distinction then you get out of law enforcement.

Who does the trained, observant, articulate law enforcement work for? Who pays their salaries and upkeep not to mention the all important budget busting 'loaded' pensions? See this is what is reversed and why it is becoming toxic.

In business it is an accepted principle that 'customer is always right', or at least they earn it since they own us.

It's a matter of whose side you are on? You mean cops, right or wrong, morality be damned? You're saying 'with us or against us?'

I'm hearing 'might makes right.' Law? Law my ass.

You say forget "morally" or get out of law enforcement. You forget that without morality there's nothing to stop you from breaking the law to bits, if you can get away with it.

Apparently, there's more to stop y'all, now that dashcams are showing up everywhere. Apparently y'all are going to have to change your law-breaking ways some.

We had a civilization once, and we can do it again. Join us! It will be better than the way things are, for everyone.

And I would counter that it is not too much to expect that P.O.S.T. certified, trained, observant and able to articulate law enforcement officer who is being paid damned good money plus an excellent fringe benefit package to be able to stay in control of his or her emotions enough not to allow a routine traffic stop to escalate into a violent confrontation.

John Q in this video (the dashcam of the OP incident) seems much more trustworthy and articulate than the 'I'm gonna blow a hole in your head' cop. Tell us again how this fellow's training and certifications make him so professional, so in-control, so responsible and "trustworthy."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=asnL...ature=youtu.be

Yup... + 1.

Which merely details how out of your depth this is for you: in these situations, an officer HAS stopped things from escalating to a point of public danger by acting in due capacity.

No stop is " routine."

Keep fucking that chicken Zeke!

So, you truly don't have an argument?

Noted.

No argument is needed when someone says they trust the judgement of "I'm going to blow a hole in your fucking head!" You are deep into 'affiliation trumps facts' here. Your guy is OK no matter how obviously fucked-up. Why? Because he's your guy.

With this sort of thing being fronted as argument, forget argument. Actual argument is obviously irrelevant.

My mistake. For some reason, I was thinking it was an officers duty to serve & protect & that includes the person being pulled over for not using a blinker.

In an "officer involved shooting" a cop has a very compelling reason to lie about whether he had a "reasonable fear" for his safety. When the evidence in most cases is the cop's statement and there is no standard of proof beyond that, the cop who murders someone walks.

We saw this in North Charleston where the murderer claimed self defense because his victim "grabbed my taser". Had it not been for the citizen video he would have gotten away with it...... [i]even though a fellow officer actually witnessed the killer drop the taser next to the body.

Still doesn't prove he didn't go for the taser.

Sum?

He did.

Good guys win, again

This particular "good guy" has been indicted for murder.

How dare you insult chickens like this. He's not fucking the chicken, he's choking the chicken.