Your 2nd Amendment at Work in Louisiana
 

Three dead so far in shooting at a Lafayette, LA movie theater shooting. Current TeeVee news has three dead including the gunner who was a 58 year old white male. No name or motive disclosed so far. Shooter shot himself to death. To bad he didn't shoot himself to death first. The police chief just made a statement on FOX with Bobby Jindal standing next to him. Tell us how it's a "tragedy" Bobby. Tell us how we need to get guns out of the hands of criminals and crazy people, and if everybody in the theater had been packing, it would have never happened...you goddamn wanker.

Just fucking great. What this 5 cent cigar needs is a good country.

It is copy cat. A new way of going out. You want to depart for whatever reason, but you do not want to go alone so you take some people with you.

So you finally get some notice...yes some attention.

If only they did not have movie theaters....

To early to tell what this act of gun violence is all about. Could be a targeted killing of an ex and new acquaintance turning into suicide. Old story or something never known or understood. Sad news and the gun nuts will be saying time to arm us all.

One thing is for sure, things like this will keep happening, evermore frequently given the shear amount of easy access to readily available firearms.


Barney

John Russel Houser, 59, "drifter" from Alabama. Y'all loves your handguns down in 'Bama.

No indication of a felony record so far, which would put him in the same category with 99-44/100% of the other mass murderers who aren't "criminals" until after they get their gun and do the deed. But maybe it will turn out that Houser had an illegal gun...I'll feel so much better then.:rolleyes:

I think the good guy with a gun was at the matinee.

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Irony?


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Is it that most other countries with public shootings on our scale are failed Middle East and African States?

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No

The NRA means that good people with weapons can stop these massacres, instead of gun control. Well I was making a point. The good guy with a weapon seems to be markedly absent lately, and in the case of Chattanooga not enough.

Twisted logic by the NRA and gun nuts.

Bad guy with the gun does not care if he dies during his demented act. As for the good guys, do they have an option? Or even a chance to defend themselves? No and that's why this logic of arming the good guys sucks. :mad:

How can you unequivocally say that?

You can never win in a situation where you respond to an adversary's initiative.

In short, I could be sitting in the theatre as the good guy. The psycho is not going to come up and politely announce that he will begin a massacre. So they kill many even if the good guy is lucky enough to fight back.

It is deflection. It is a way for the NRA to rationalize their worship of assault weapons and ease their conscience.

Answered in Post #15.
In other words good guys are sitting ducks as the bad guy acts out heinously.
Or answer me this, the bad guy with a gun is ready to shoot and kill. Where are the good guys guns? Can they even get at it, decide to stand up and shoot (where have I heard that!), aim and kill the perp? So called CC permits for law abiding citizens is such a joke! It's just for bragging rights.

Do we even know if anyone else in the theater had a weapon? Seems to me that someone shooting back at the perp would complicate his life greatly.

Let me ask you this, is the intent here to justify unmitigated gun ownership or address mass killings in say schools, churches, theaters, recruiting centers, etc. In other words protecting the innocent public from being massacred. :confused:

Good question.
I'm pretty sure I know what answer you would get from that NRA.

My intent is to show that no one can say exactly what will happen in any given situation.

I cannot guarantee that if someone else had been armed and willing to fight back that the killing would have stopped, just as you cannot be sure that if someone else had been armed and willing to fight back that it would make no difference whatsoever.

That is my only intent.

Gotta go, see you later.

Thank you for your sincerity. :)

http://www.salon.com/2015/07/24/weve...hing_about_it/


Sums things up accurately.

I figure I got twice the chance of ending up dead if I'm in the middle of a fire fight between the homicidal lunatic and the homicidal vigilante lunatic, than if I'm running away from the homicidal lunatic only.

This just in, the shooter had a Tea Party facebook page.

It's a good article barbara, but "dysfunctional" isn't even close to the appropriate terminology. I would suggest "psychopathological."

Yeah, you are probably right about that.

So...... I'm looking at my calendar anticipating the next mass shooting. I'm thinking late August or early September.

Good article and the title says it all.

We’ve lost the gun debate: Our relationship with guns is dysfunctional, and we won’t do a thing about it

What is incorrigible is that if we are indeed a western civilized nation, why don't we look at other western nations for solutions. I probably know the answer, "Guns don't kill...................", and we are not followers. :rolleyes:

An NRA sponsored all expenses paid convention for suicidal psychopaths. :rolleyes:

The problem with good guys with guns is crossfire and poor judgement re good guy vs perp confusion during and after.
Also,"good guys" with guns aren't always good guys.
Gun ownership should be a privelege, subject to periodic review. The wording of the 2nd doesn't prohibit that under the caveat of "good order and dicipline", afaik.

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If you want to really state the NRA's point of view: the solution to massacres is armed vigilantism.

I agree with that statement.

The gun issue is a loser for the left.

It just sucks up valuable energy that could be better used to fight for something that will improve the quality of life for millions.

Universal Single Payer Health Care.

I would say that gun regulation AND national health insurance are not mutually exclusive, Dr. Strangelove.

And I would say they are not exactly comparable either.

Universal Single Payer is far more important than gun control IMO.

And saying we don't know is a valid point.

What I do know is that I've double tapped (from holstered) five individual pop up targets, appearing at random and with accuracy being an 8.5" x 11" square (equal to center of mass), at an average range of ten feet in under seven seconds with a round left in the gun.

I, also, know that I couldn't react -- awareness, presentation, sights on target and trigger pulled -- in under seven seconds with a tub of popcorn in my lap. Then you have to actually hit the guy and immediately incapacitate him while he shoots back...

UGH.

The guy fired thirteen times, duration unknown. I find it highly unlikely it would have made a difference were he surrounded by a SWAT team in a theater: initiative wins.

I had 335 confirmed NVA and Viet Cong kills in Nam using nothing but my grandfather's Scrimshaw bone handled straight razor. I would sneak into their barracks at night and slit every throat while they were sleeping.

Were those targets black and going for your gun?

HMMM....that story is hard to believe because you were an Air Force Medic....now if you had been a Navy Hospital Corpsman maybe....;)


I have it on good authority that you were in charge of handing out basketballs at the Da Nang base gym....:D

:D

Crouching Tiger, Hidden Joad.

The Viet Cong had barracks?

lol

I don't think so.