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HarmanKardon 07-22-2015 04:03 AM

Questions about rt news.
 
What do you think about this news channel? Do you think that rt news is globally successful in the shaping of public opinion?

Is my assumption correct, that they broadcast nothing else than anti American BS?

Dondilion 07-22-2015 07:13 AM

Today RT news. https://www.rt.com

HarmanKardon 07-22-2015 07:39 AM

Okay, "nothing else" is a bit exaggerating. But the primitive agitation (therefore pretty clever) against (towards?) the USA makes me angry.

finnbow 07-22-2015 07:57 AM

It's kinda like Fox News for Comrades.

icenine 07-22-2015 09:02 AM

I would watch and listen to the BBC instead.

Dondilion 07-22-2015 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by icenine (Post 278828)
I would watch and listen to the BBC instead.

The BBC, France 24 and Yahoo are awful when it comes to Russia. The exile Russians oligarchs have bought the British government.

icenine 07-22-2015 09:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dondilion (Post 278834)
The BBC, France 24 and Yahoo are awful when it comes to Russia. The exile Russians oligarchs have bought the British government.



Your Putin fetish is making you less objective when discussing the qualities of various news organizations.

Dondilion 07-22-2015 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by icenine (Post 278835)
Your Putin fetish is making you less objective when discussing the qualities of various news organizations.

London is called Londongrad. :D

Boreas 07-22-2015 10:25 AM

I watch RT America a good bit but far less than I used to. The America-bashing began to get to me but, despite that, it offers a glimpse into the "Russian mind" if you will. It offers a perspective that we don't get from our domestic sources.

Also, to pick a particular issue, we know that their coverage of Ukraine is one-sided and dishonest but we also know the same to be true of American coverage. It's good to be in a position to "compare and contrast."

Now, there are some shows and people on RT that I really like. Max Keiser's finance show is entertaining and occasionally informative. Sophie Shevardnadze does a good interview show. Maria Finoshina's reporting from the Middle East was really good and incredibly brave but I haven't seen her for a while.

There are some low spots. Oksana Boyko's interview show is hopelessly jingoistic. Peter Lavelle's "Crosstalk" is pathetic anti-West bleating. Worst of all are the Ventura family's idiotic shows. There's Jesse's "Off The Grid" and his kid Tyrell's "Watching The Hawks."

I watch a good bit of France 24 too as well as the BBC and Al Jazeera English (not America). Some DW too. Honestly, I see less bias on any one of these than I do in US sources, including NPR (which, in my view, is completely bought and paid for by its "corporate underwriters").

In sum, all news is propaganda and all good propaganda is truth, or a portion of the truth. It's good to be able to balance one brand of propaganda with others, as many others as possible.

Dondilion 07-22-2015 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Boreas (Post 278846)

In sum, all news is propaganda and all good propaganda is truth, or a portion of the truth. It's good to be able to balance one brand of propaganda with others, as many others as possible.

Well put!

merrylander 07-22-2015 11:39 AM

It's even better to have a life.:)

Boreas 07-22-2015 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by merrylander (Post 278861)
It's even better to have a life.:)

The two are not mutually exclusive. In fact, it can be argued that the absence of one is a detriment to the other.

I'll leave you to figure out which is which.

Dondilion 10-09-2015 07:59 AM

CNN has become awful.

donquixote99 10-09-2015 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Dondilion (Post 289094)
CNN has become awful.

I wouldn't argue, but did you have an example in mind?

icenine 10-09-2015 09:18 AM

Anyone here ever listen to Radio Moscow on the shortwave radio back in the 70s?
The announcers spoke perfect English without any accents, but there was a sort of eerie tone to the voices.

Boreas 10-09-2015 10:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by icenine (Post 289100)
Anyone here ever listen to Radio Moscow on the shortwave radio back in the 70s?
The announcers spoke perfect English without any accents, but there was a sort of eerie tone to the voices.

They were androids.

icenine 10-09-2015 10:33 AM

The female announcers sort of sounded like robots now that I think about it.

Boreas 10-09-2015 10:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dondilion (Post 289094)
CNN has become awful.

CNN has been pretty awful for years.

CNN International is worth watching.

donquixote99 10-09-2015 11:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by icenine (Post 289106)
The female announcers sort of sounded like robots now that I think about it.

At a guess, they were subject to criticism for any suspected notes of irony, etc, in their reading of their copy. This would lead to them striving for the blandest possible style.

icenine 10-09-2015 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by donquixote99 (Post 289111)
At a guess, they were subject to criticism for any suspected notes of irony, etc, in their reading of their copy. This would lead to them striving for the blandest possible style.

They sounded lucid and almost too perfectly non-accented, sort of like the lady on the what time is it phone service one could dial...but with a sort extra-terrestrial quality, like aliens who were trying to fool us by sounding too perfect.

Boreas 10-09-2015 12:52 PM

RT has a bunch of correspondents with Russian or Ukrainian(?) names whose English pronunciation is pretty damn perfect for the countries they work in. They may be natural born citizens or they may be the children of Russian diplomats (one, Anastasia Churkina, the daughter of the Russian UN Ambassasor, absolutely is) or they may simply be very well trained.

Boreas 10-09-2015 01:14 PM

A number of RT correspondents and anchors have resigned, all for essentially the same reasons.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=55izx6rbCqg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZolXrjGIBJs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Yia5kEz0jo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M2-50PiZqEo

Dondilion 10-09-2015 01:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by donquixote99 (Post 289097)
I wouldn't argue, but did you have an example in mind?

Coverage of the Iran deal.

Dondilion 10-10-2015 04:57 AM

Readers of any news source have to be careful.

RT

Trail of bodies follow the retreat of Jihadists in Syria.
Note: these bodies could have been planted by the Syrian army. :D

https://www.rt.com/news/318184-captured syrian-village-atrocities/

4-2-7 10-10-2015 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by HarmanKardon (Post 278817)
What do you think about this news channel? Do you think that rt news is globally successful in the shaping of public opinion?

Is my assumption correct, that they broadcast nothing else than anti American BS?

Chris just like any other news source you read and evaluate the story against other reports.

4-2-7 10-10-2015 08:38 AM

Oh and Chris looking though this thread and knowing this site, your asking primarily a group that vilifies any news source that is not in concert with their aganda. All the while they are posting information from extremist souces and deem it factual.

donquixote99 10-10-2015 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by 4-2-7 (Post 289280)
Oh and Chris looking though this thread and knowing this site, your asking primarily a group that vilifies any news source that is not in concert with their aganda. All the while they are posting information from extremist souces and deem it factual.

No we don't.

But I just quoted a post form a fellow that likes to badmouth everyone here with ridiculous insulting smears.

Dondilion 10-11-2015 02:25 PM

Listened to CNN weekend anchor, Poppy Harlow (her real name?) yesterday and was so pleased.

Nice to listen to a presenter who does not come across as trying to overwhelm the audience and or the interviewee.

Dondilion 10-12-2015 04:34 AM

RT is attempting to give visuals to its claims that its air campaign so far has been effective.

In the video the presenter, Murad Gazdiev, claims that the flight and desertion of civilians from the areas have made the air strikes easier.

EXCLUSIVE from Hama:
https://www.rt.com/news/318338-syria...ive-exclusive/


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