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Tom Joad 07-18-2015 10:51 AM

Nearly 40,000 Demand South Carolina Remove Slave Memorial Because It ‘Shames’ Whites
 
I'd say the fact that this petition already has over 39,000 signatures is what shames whites.

http://www.alternet.org/culture/near...-shames-whites

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Nearly 40,000 people have signed onto a petition to remove the African-American Monument from the South Carolina statehouse grounds after a Confederate flag was taken down.
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The petition complains that the Confederate flag was removed because it offended black people through its historic association with slavery and white supremacy, and laughably asserts that the African-American Monument, designed by sculptor Ed Dwight, provokes the same outrage for whites.

“The African American Monument depicts slave ships, mistreatment and words such as ‘segregation’ and ‘Jim Crow,'” the petition states. “This being the case, it is undeniable that this monument can and does serve to invoke in the white community feelings of shame, humiliation and offense, serving as a constant reminder of the dark history of slavery.”

The petition had gathered more than 39,300 signatures by Friday afternoon, with a goal set for 50,000 signatures asking for the state legislature to remove the monument.

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catswiththum 07-18-2015 11:00 AM

Hahahahaha - how droll.

I'm going to start a petition to remove all doughnut shops because they induce cravings that are bad for my health.

And another to kill everyone more successful than myself because they engender feelings of inferiority.

Where do these people find the time for this crap?

catswiththum 07-18-2015 11:03 AM

It's convenient - we don't like history, so we will do away with it.

That'll fix everything!

finnbow 07-18-2015 11:07 AM

Everyone knows is that it's actually southern whites who are the victims of racism.:rolleyes:

catswiththum 07-18-2015 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by finnbow (Post 278422)
Everyone knows is that it's actually southern whites who are the victims of racism.:rolleyes:

I can not find any reference anywhere to those crowded, filthy ships full of white folks in chains - I will keep looking . . .

Oerets 07-18-2015 11:12 AM

Signatures HA!

Bet there is more then a few who signed with their mark.

Guess denying history is better then facing it.




Barney

catswiththum 07-18-2015 11:12 AM

"It's what people know about themselves inside that makes them afraid" - Clint Eastwood in High Plains Drifter.

Pio1980 07-18-2015 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by catswiththum (Post 278420)
Hahahahaha - how droll.

I'm going to start a petition to remove all doughnut shops because they induce cravings that are bad for my health.

And another to kill everyone more successful than myself because they engender feelings of inferiority.

Where do these people find the time for this crap?

Do they shame police, mock them, or stereotype them.
Mmmmm, donuts! Is there anything they can't do?

Great, now I got to get me some Lamar's.

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catswiththum 07-18-2015 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Pio1980 (Post 278426)
Do they shame police, mock them, or stereotype them.
Mmmmm, donuts! Is there anything they can't do?

Great, now,I got to get me some Lamar's.

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Resistance is futile.

Pio1980 07-18-2015 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by catswiththum (Post 278427)
Resistance is futile.

True, but capacitance can be shocking.

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catswiththum 07-18-2015 11:23 AM

If a few of these idiots weren't still potentially dangerous, it would be laughable.

But they are taught to hate, and some end up shooting 9 innocent people.

catswiththum 07-18-2015 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Pio1980 (Post 278428)
True, but capacitance can be shocking.

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Nicely done. :)

Pio1980 07-18-2015 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by catswiththum (Post 278430)
If a few of these idiots weren't still potentially dangerous, it would be laughable.

But they are taught to hate, and some end up shooting 9 innocent people.

As I've said, "it's not Sharia when We do it". But, it's every bit as pernicious whatever form it takes.

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Tom Joad 07-18-2015 11:35 AM

Here's a link to the petition in case anyone is interested in signing it. :D

https://www.change.org/p/south-carol...0-9691d27ac7bf

mpholland 07-18-2015 11:41 AM

Wonder if this signature is on it?

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/...ker%20Jack.jpg

Pio1980 07-18-2015 11:50 AM

We in white America have an incredibly narrow candy coated impression of our own National history, this is another attempt to support that fantasy.

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catswiththum 07-18-2015 01:19 PM

History is what it is.

How hard is it? Is it that difficult to accept history? You don't have to own it.

"My ancestors did some horrible things - I don't believe in those things and am more than happy to remove flags and symbols that bring back those hateful memories."

Is that so tough?

Rex E. 07-18-2015 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by catswiththum (Post 278461)
History is what it is.

How hard is it? Is it that difficult to accept history? You don't have to own it.

"My ancestors did some horrible things - I don't believe in those things and am more than happy to remove flags and symbols that bring back those hateful memories."

Is that so tough?

No, it's very easy. The problem is they do believe in and want to bring back those things there ancestors did. If they did not then they would do exactly what you described.

catswiththum 07-18-2015 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Rex E. (Post 278466)
No, it's very easy. The problem is they do believe in and want to bring back those things there ancestors did. If they did not then they would do exactly what you described.

I am sure there are some more Dylan Roofs out there - there is no way to tell what is in peoples' hearts, but my instinct is the majority of those flag waving morons wouldn't go shoot up a church - they just don't like yankees telling them what to do and would rather fly that flag to satisfy their own spite than put it away because it is hurtful.

Adolescent, selfish, and mean spirited.

Pio1980 07-18-2015 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by catswiththum (Post 278468)
I am sure there are some more Dylan Roofs out there - there is no way to tell what is in peoples' hearts, but my instinct is the majority of those flag waving morons wouldn't go shoot up a church - they just don't like yankees telling them what to do and would rather fly that flag to satisfy their own spite than put it away because it is hurtful.

Adolescent, selfish, and mean spirited.

I'd agree with that analysis, careless contrarianism.

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catswiththum 07-18-2015 04:04 PM

But you never know - the KKK relics say they are going to parade around where the flag USED to be (there is a bit of satisfying symbolism there) at the SC Statehouse and have indicated those with permits intend to carry their sidearms.

I won't live to see it, but one day parents will go to that spot and tell their children, "this is where the KKK USED to make spectacles of themselves."

BlueStreak 07-18-2015 06:37 PM

No, it depicts the truth and if those shameless idiots can't handle the truth.......tough.

The time has come for the truth to be pounded at them. We must never, ever relent to the attempts to whitewash history stand.

The CONFEDERACY WAS A SHAMEFUL THING.

Boreas 07-18-2015 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by catswiththum (Post 278468)
I am sure there are some more Dylan Roofs out there - there is no way to tell what is in peoples' hearts, but my instinct is the majority of those flag waving morons wouldn't go shoot up a church - they just don't like yankees telling them what to do and would rather fly that flag to satisfy their own spite than put it away because it is hurtful.

Adolescent, selfish, and mean spirited.

But the very idea that there's a group of people who, by virtue of birth I suppose, are "Yankees" and that this somehow disqualifies them from having any influence over the behavior of the good people of Dixie is terribly destructive of national unity and social consensus.

BlueStreak 07-18-2015 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by finnbow (Post 278422)
Everyone knows is that it's actually southern whites who are the victims of racism.:rolleyes:

So, you've noticed the attempts to paint Southern Whites along with other Whites especially Christians, as "victims" too?

It's too bizarre for words. It's bizarre and it's blatant BS.

I was recently told, "So what? Looks to me like she was just another racist civil rights activist trying to stir things up." in reference to Sandra Bland.

Dismissal and condemnation of the woman knowing no more than what he saw in a two minute YouTube clip.

Welcome to Republican America.:(

catswiththum 07-18-2015 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Boreas (Post 278475)
But the very idea that there's a group of people who, by virtue of birth I suppose, are "Yankees" and that this somehow disqualifies them from having any influence over the behavior of the good people of Dixie is terribly destructive of national unity and social consensus.

Exactly. But, I don't expect national unity - I don't care if they know history or not. If they want to blame everything on "yankees," no problem - they can think whatever they want - free country.

But they can not break the law and they can not have the confederate battle flag flying over gov. prop. in the US.

BlueStreak 07-18-2015 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by catswiththum (Post 278478)
Exactly. But, I don't expect national unity - I don't care if they know history or not. If they want to blame everything on "yankees," no problem - they can think whatever they want - free country.

But they can not break the law and they can not have the confederate battle flag flying over gov. prop. in the US.

Everyone has the freedom to think what they want. Everyone has the right to speak their minds.............

And that includes those who are tired of quietly listening to the lies and bullshit of Confederate whitewashers.

Does it not?

BlueStreak 07-18-2015 07:02 PM

We can't pass laws to shut them up, but we can shout them down.

catswiththum 07-18-2015 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by BlueStreak (Post 278479)
Everyone has the freedom to think what they want. Everyone has the right to speak their minds.............

And that includes those who are tired of quietly listening to the lies and bullshit of Confederate whitewashers.

Does it not?

Yes indeed - if they choose to be selfish morons, they better learn to take the consequences.

catswiththum 07-18-2015 07:05 PM

And it is all such a f*&king waste of time - a gazillion things need to be done and these imbeciles are worried about a flag that does nothing but bring up a shameful past and pain for those who had to endure it.

catswiththum 07-18-2015 07:08 PM

I mean, it's now to the point were they have to CHOOSE stupid - all the information and truth is readily available.

You figure people out - write a book - I'll buy it.

catswiththum 07-18-2015 07:14 PM

In SC our roads are falling apart, most of the school districts suck, domestic violence is out of control - you would think we have enough to do,but no - some confederate wannabe shoots nine poor church people.

BlueStreak 07-18-2015 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by catswiththum (Post 278484)
I mean, it's now to the point were they have to CHOOSE stupid - all the information and truth is readily available.

You figure people out - write a book - I'll buy it.

Yep. Not much you can do with people who wear their ignorance as a badge of honor. Proud to be stupid...........Yee Haw!!!:rolleyes:

It is astonishing the amount of garbage people will believe and put forth in the name of protecting their pride. The insane part is that it's so counterproductive. The more hardheaded and stubborn they are the more asinine they look.

bobabode 07-18-2015 07:27 PM

Get a load of these morons :mad:. http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/l...119-story.html

Legend has it that a bunch of Johnny Rebs emigrated here after the war and seeing as how strong the Tea Party is here, I'm not surprised. :rolleyes:

catswiththum 07-18-2015 07:32 PM

They hear their uncles, fathers, mothers spout racist nonsense from the time they are born - I think the tide is turning, but it's slow.

Hopefully, some people are rethinking a few things lately - it took nine innocent people getting gunned down, but I hope at least some of the young people who were raised with that crap are saying, "wait - this can't be right - those people weren't hurting anyone and even asked that boy to pray with them."

It is unfortunate that with humanity, real change often takes a disaster to get it started.

donquixote99 07-18-2015 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by BlueStreak (Post 278480)
We can't pass laws to shut them up, but we can shout them down.

The trouble is, trying to do that produces the opposite effect of what you say you want. That is, they don't get less full of ass and victimhood, they get more. That's how reactionaries react, I'm afraid....

BlueStreak 07-18-2015 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by donquixote99 (Post 278489)
The trouble is, trying to do that produces the opposite effect of what you say you want. That is, they don't get less full of ass and victimhood, they get more. That's how reactionaries react, I'm afraid....

What has patronizing them gotten us?:rolleyes:

BlueStreak 07-18-2015 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by bobabode (Post 278487)
Get a load of these morons :mad:. http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/l...119-story.html

Legend has it that a bunch of Johnny Rebs emigrated here after the war and seeing as how strong the Tea Party is here, I'm not surprised. :rolleyes:

Orange County, Bob.

Republican enclave.

Even the Klan is smart enough to seed where the soil is fertile.

As the saying goes, "I know not all Republicans are racists, but every racist I know is a Republican." ;)

donquixote99 07-18-2015 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by BlueStreak (Post 278492)
What has patronizing them gotten us?:rolleyes:

A less strident reaction. More possibility of actual communication.

Tom Joad 07-18-2015 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by donquixote99 (Post 278496)
A less strident reaction. More possibility of actual communication.

These sore losers have had 150 years to get over it.

And they're still cryin, whinin, pissin and moanin.

I'm sick and tired of it.

Maybe it's time to send the United States Army in to kick some more ass.

http://i843.photobucket.com/albums/z...ittle-Rock.jpg

Rajoo 07-18-2015 10:37 PM

Reading this thread it is easy to see why Trump the clown is able to generate such a huge following in a very short time with just a handful of slanderous comments.


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