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Dude111 07-02-2015 03:06 AM

http://www.yahoo.com/tv/s/dukes-hazz...150101689.html

I really have NO WORDS!!!!

This country is so screwed up its not funny!!

nailer 07-02-2015 04:27 AM

Another reason for me not to get cable. :)

merrylander 07-02-2015 06:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dude111 (Post 276881)
http://www.yahoo.com/tv/s/dukes-hazz...150101689.html

I really have NO WORDS!!!!

This country is so screwed up its not funny!!

Admittedly it is screwed up but the Dukes were not the cause.

donquixote99 07-02-2015 07:36 AM

Dude, I take it you are a Dukes fan?

Tom Joad 07-02-2015 08:04 AM

I am proud to say I never watched a single episode.

I don't think I ever got more than about halfway through the intro before I either switched channels or turned the TV off.

icenine 07-02-2015 08:53 AM

If you are sad that the Dukes of Hazard is off TV then you are beyond help on so many different levels.

Pio1980 07-02-2015 10:24 AM

Interesting at this relatively late date the apparently ignorant use of Confederate iconography to make the show look all South-y, in spite of the S&B notorious association with overtly racist attitudes (the lost cause mythology notwithstanding).

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merrylander 07-02-2015 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by donquixote99 (Post 276905)
Dude, I take it you are a Dukes fan?

If that was directed at me, no I was not a fan but it was only a TV show. Plenty of other things screwed up this country.

Pio1980 07-02-2015 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by merrylander (Post 276921)
If that was directed at me, no I was not a fan but it was only a TV show. Plenty of other things screwed up this country.

Have you seen CSA the movie?
Disturbing yet intriguing alternate history.

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icenine 07-02-2015 10:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pio1980 (Post 276916)
Interesting at this relatively late date the apparently ignorant use of Confederate iconography to make the show look all South-y, in spite of the S&B notorious association with overtly racist attitudes (the lost cause mythology notwithstanding).

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In the 1970s you would see that flag in Ohio pretty regularly, on cars and even in dorm room windows. I think maybe American society then did not see it as offensive as today. Maybe as a nation we had our collective blinders on.

Pio1980 07-02-2015 11:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pio1980 (Post 276916)
Interesting at this relatively late date the apparently ignorant use of Confederate iconography to make the show look all South-y, in spite of the S&B notorious association with overtly racist attitudes (the lost cause mythology notwithstanding).

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Interesting that Andy Griffith and The Waltons didn't need the S&B iconography.

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icenine 07-02-2015 12:32 PM

Quoting yourself is fine Pio...just as long as you do not start referring to yourself in the third person, like that farm animal over in AK;)

Boreas 07-02-2015 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by icenine (Post 276932)
In the 1970s you would see that flag in Ohio pretty regularly, on cars and even in dorm room windows. I think maybe American society then did not see it as offensive as today. Maybe as a nation we had our collective blinders on.

Doubtful. I have never met anyone who displayed that flag who wasn't making a racial (racist) statement.

Tom Joad 07-02-2015 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Boreas (Post 276955)
Doubtful. I have never met anyone who displayed that flag who wasn't making a racial (racist) statement.

Actually I can remember way back in the day before the Civil Rights movement heated up, I'm talking maybe early to mid 1950's, when that flag was more of an anti-Yankee thing rather than an anti-black thing.

Of course back then we didn't have no Nigga problems down heah.

Dey knew their place and stayed in it.

It wasn't until them damned outside agitatin Yankees came down here and started putting ideas in their haids is when all this heah trouble started.

catswiththum 07-02-2015 02:17 PM

And a lot of biker gangs, college kids, etc. adopted it/hung it in the frat house to be cool and "outlawish" without stopping to think how much pain that flag represented.

I wish it was not the confederate battle flag and did not stand for what it does, because I rather like the design.

Boreas 07-02-2015 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Tom Joad (Post 276970)
Actually I can remember way back in the day before the Civil Rights movement heated up, I'm talking maybe early to mid 1950's, when that flag was more of an anti-Yankee thing rather than an anti-black thing.

Of course back then we didn't have no Nigga problems down heah.

Dey knew their place and stayed in it.

It wasn't until them damned outside agitatin Yankees came down here and started putting ideas in their haids is when all this heah trouble started.

The two are inextricably intertwined. The anti-Yankee sentiment is rooted in the Lost Cause. The cause that was lost was the Southern Way Of Life. The Southern Way of Life was rooted in white privilege enabled by the enslavement of the blacks.

I'm a little older than you and I grew up in a southern state during Jim Crow. I've eaten at Whites Only lunch counters, drunk from Whites Only water fountains, peed in Whites Only restrooms and fished in the lake at Robert E. Lee Memorial Park (which still exists and is still so named).

This southern state was Maryland, a slave state though it stayed in the Union. Harriet Tubman was enslaved in Maryland. John Wilkes Booth was a Marylander. Get away from Baltimore or the DC suburbs (some of them) and you're in the South..... still.

Southern culture and all its iconography is racist to the core.

Tom Joad 07-02-2015 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Boreas (Post 276975)
I'm a little older than you and I grew up in a southern state during Jim Crow. I've eaten at Whites Only lunch counters, drunk from Whites Only water fountains, peed in Whites Only restrooms

Dude, I'm 68 and was born and raised in Florida.

I've done all those things too.

I never had a black kid in school with me until college.

I never had a conversation with a black person until I was in the Military.

They stayed in their part of town and we stayed in ours.

Boreas 07-02-2015 02:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom Joad (Post 276976)
Dude, I'm 68 and was born and raised in Florida.

I've done all those things too.

I never had a black kid in school with me until college.

I never had a conversation with a black person until I was in the Military.

They stayed in their part of town and we stayed in ours.

Then you should know I'm right. ;)

Tom Joad 07-02-2015 02:31 PM

The great wailing and gnashing of teeth begins.

https://www.yahoo.com/tv/dukes-of-ha...037825885.html

Quote:

Schneider says his residuals from the show “have never been much to write home about,” but he would like the show to persist because of the old-fashioned values it promotes, such as honesty, courage, chivalry, rebelliousness and the like.
Old Fashioned values?

I dunno.

Like I said, I could never make it past the intro.

It looked pretty fucking dumb to me.

nailer 07-02-2015 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Boreas (Post 276975)
The two are inextricably intertwined. The anti-Yankee sentiment is rooted in the Lost Cause. The cause that was lost was the Southern Way Of Life. The Southern Way of Life was rooted in white privilege enabled by the enslavement of the blacks.

I'm a little older than you and I grew up in a southern state during Jim Crow. I've eaten at Whites Only lunch counters, drunk from Whites Only water fountains, peed in Whites Only restrooms and fished in the lake at Robert E. Lee Memorial Park (which still exists and is still so named).

This southern state was Maryland, a slave state though it stayed in the Union. Harriet Tubman was enslaved in Maryland. John Wilkes Booth was a Marylander. Get away from Baltimore or the DC suburbs (some of them) and you're in the South..... still.

Southern culture and all its iconography is racist to the core.

In 1860 our country was pretty much racist to the core, although most of the free north and much of the slave south realized slavery was wrong. Even that traitor with all those places currently named after him.

FWIW, Europe was pretty much racist to the core in 1860.

Tom Joad 07-02-2015 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Boreas (Post 276977)
Then you should know I'm right. ;)

All I know is that I was taught to hate "Damned Yankees" before I was taught to hate "Niggers". But like I said, in the 60's, when the civil rights movement started gaining steam, the focus changed somewhat.

I'm not arguing that the Flag isn't racist, it's racist as Hell.

It's just that after the Civil Rights movement, it became even more so IMO.

catswiththum 07-02-2015 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Tom Joad (Post 276978)
The great wailing and gnashing of teeth begins.

https://www.yahoo.com/tv/dukes-of-ha...037825885.html



Old Fashioned values?

I dunno.

Like I said, I could never make it past the intro.

It looked pretty fucking dumb to me.

A celebration of ignorance - as is most television fare.

I stick with Netflix and Hulu - will watch the Twilight Zone, Perry Mason, some British series we like, and any good movies/documentaries that pop up (and those are few and far between these days).

Tom Joad 07-02-2015 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Pio1980 (Post 276947)
Interesting that Andy Griffith and The Waltons didn't need the S&B iconography.

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I actually saw a black woman in an Andy Griffith Episode!

Check out the crowd behind Barney starting at about the 4 minute mark!



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1V_vKNCMLg0

Tom Joad 07-02-2015 02:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by catswiththum (Post 276981)
A celebration of ignorance - as is most television fare.

I stick with Netflix and Hulu - will watch the Twilight Zone, Perry Mason, some British series we like, and any good movies/documentaries that pop up (and those are few and far between these days).

There were some pretty good TV comedies back during the time the Dukes of Hazard was airing.

Some of my favorites were WKRP, Barney Miller, and Taxi.

catswiththum 07-02-2015 02:54 PM

I did like Rowan and Martin's Laugh In - so over the top it was funny.

But I was young then . . .

Sock it to Me!

http://clickamericana.com/wp-content...n-laugh-in.jpg

nailer 07-02-2015 03:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by catswiththum (Post 276986)
I did like Rowan and Martin's Laugh In - so over the top it was funny.

But I was young then . . .

Sock it to Me!

http://clickamericana.com/wp-content...n-laugh-in.jpg

I remember a boxing match between Wilt Chamberlain and Sammy Davis Jr.

Just noticed how white the cast was. (edit)

Tom Joad 07-02-2015 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by nailer (Post 276987)
I remember a boxing match between Wilt Chamberlain and Sammy Davis Jr.

How about the one between Gary Coleman and Ken Norton?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ncQbAHunyZ8

catswiththum 07-02-2015 03:10 PM

My sisters used to hit the floor and dance like idiots when American Bandstand and Soul Train came on.

Me - no dancing - but a good opportunity to sneak in their rooms and create chaos. :D

merrylander 07-02-2015 03:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boreas (Post 276975)
The two are inextricably intertwined. The anti-Yankee sentiment is rooted in the Lost Cause. The cause that was lost was the Southern Way Of Life. The Southern Way of Life was rooted in white privilege enabled by the enslavement of the blacks.

I'm a little older than you and I grew up in a southern state during Jim Crow. I've eaten at Whites Only lunch counters, drunk from Whites Only water fountains, peed in Whites Only restrooms and fished in the lake at Robert E. Lee Memorial Park (which still exists and is still so named).

This southern state was Maryland, a slave state though it stayed in the Union. Harriet Tubman was enslaved in Maryland. John Wilkes Booth was a Marylander. Get away from Baltimore or the DC suburbs (some of them) and you're in the South..... still.

Southern culture and all its iconography is racist to the core.

It surely must piss off my Republican neighbors here in western Howard when my black friends drop by then.:)

merrylander 07-02-2015 03:19 PM

Most of our TV watching is BBC in America onn the local PBS channels. We used to watch NCIS because we like Pauley Perrette (Cote de Pablo is not hard on the eyes either) but it now comes on too late. TV can put me to sleep faster than anything.

nailer 07-02-2015 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by merrylander (Post 276991)
It surely must piss off my Republican neighbors here in western Howard when my black friends drop by then.:)

Just knowing you're their neighbor probably pisses them off. ;) :)

catswiththum 07-02-2015 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by merrylander (Post 276992)
Most of our TV watching is BBC in America onn the local PBS channels. We used to watch NCIS because we like Pauley Perette (Cote de Pablo is not hard on the eyes either) but it now comes on too late. TV can put me to sleep faster than anything.

I usually try to read myself to sleep, but these latest threads induced me to pull up and re-watch Ken Burns' The Civil War the past few evenings. It's on Netflix.

nailer 07-02-2015 03:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom Joad (Post 276983)
There were some pretty good TV comedies back during the time the Dukes of Hazard was airing.

Some of my favorites were WKRP, Barney Miller, and Taxi.

Les Nessman letting us know that turkeys can't fly will always be with me :)

merrylander 07-02-2015 03:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nailer (Post 276993)
Just knowing you're their neighbor probably pisses them off. ;) :)

I know the one to our left hates my guts, he has vandalized the place twice but it is always in the wee small hours. Funny part is that the cop who was here to see if there was any useful evidence said that with us we are so quiet and keep to our selves it would be like living next door to a church.

Zeke 07-02-2015 05:39 PM

Frankly, The Dukes of Hazzard is a cartoon where a car is the star along with Catherine Bach's body.

Ditching it does strike me as overkill...

djv8ga 07-03-2015 07:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Zeke (Post 277019)
Frankly, The Dukes of Hazzard is a cartoon where a car is the star along with Catherine Bach's body.

Ditching it does strike me as overkill...

+1. I don't remember any adults watching it because they wanted to.

BlueStreak 07-03-2015 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by icenine (Post 276932)
In the 1970s you would see that flag in Ohio pretty regularly, on cars and even in dorm room windows. I think maybe American society then did not see it as offensive as today. Maybe as a nation we had our collective blinders on.

Still do...................and more determined to keep them on than ever.

Other than Daisy wiggling her butt around, I saw nothing about that show to draw my interest. Just another parade of goofy rednecks and impossible car tricks.

BlueStreak 07-03-2015 08:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zeke (Post 277019)
Frankly, The Dukes of Hazzard is a cartoon where a car is the star along with Catherine Bach's body.

Ditching it does strike me as overkill...

Every episode was the same.

icenine 07-03-2015 10:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by merrylander (Post 276997)
I know the one to our left hates my guts, he has vandalized the place twice but it is always in the wee small hours. Funny part is that the cop who was here to see if there was any useful evidence said that with us we are so quiet and keep to our selves it would be like living next door to a church.

You are not blasting AC/DC at midnight from your patio are you?;)

BlueStreak 07-03-2015 11:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by icenine (Post 277053)
You are not blasting AC/DC at midnight from your patio are you?;)

Motorhead.


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