Just maybe a movement is starting
 

Mickey D has announced that in future it will only serve milk that comes from cows free of the growth hormone.

If this keeps up Monsanto is going to lose its rBST sales and that will be a damn good thing. We are the only western country that allows its use. It is banned every where else in the western world.:)

It is strange how no one will ever comment on a thread critical of those bastards at Monsanto.

Its that old American exceptionalism. We have to do just the opposite of the rest of the world. If they think its bad, we'll do it in a heartbeat. If everybody else is using it, it will get hung up in FDA red tape here for decades. Of course, corporate crony capitalism and profits rank far above what is good for the people.

The revolving door between Monsanto and government accounts for a lot as well. We have found that the dairy that supplies High's does not use that shit on their cows so we always get milk there.

I drink almond milk. Hopefully I will still be able to afford it after the California drought. My big dairy fix is Tillamook cheese, and their coop is growth hormone free.

Convince the wingnuts that all of this GMOs and other crap in our food is some kind of federal government food poisoning plot, foisted upon us by the dreaded Obama and they'll go after it with a vengeance. Until then, they will assume we are just stupid Libtards trying to destroy "job creaters" like Monsanto.

Maybe it's time to do what the rightwing propaganda machine and entities like Monsanto and Koch Industries do; Recognize what these people are and USE it, rather than fight it?

Dave

Lobbyists and Free Speech, a deadly combination.

What riles me is that if the neighbors GMO crop cross fertilizes yours they can come on your land and then sue if your crop has been corrupted by theirs. Maybe the should have made some GM bees that would not cross fences.

But what they did in Miamisburg at Mound was a criminal act.

That is awesome.

I no longer eat what is today called chicken.

That growth hormone caused the cows to be susceptible to illnesses so then they get shot full of antibiotics. They pass into the milk and now we have bacteria that resist antibiotics. Same with chickens raised in crowded conditions.

I wrote my local supermarket and told them I could find no chicken in their meat case only wildly over grown foul labeled as chicken.

Never heard back.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpqMI6pqJ0g

Building T (where Florence worked) is basically just an elevator shaft there was little above ground, certainly no records were kept there. Yet a lot of records mysteriously went down that radioactive shaft and could not be retrieved. Now I wonder how that came about?

Hah! CREDO is looking for support for a bill banning the overuse of antibiotics in farms. All they need to do is outlaw Monsanto's rBST like all the other western nations do.

If you think I hate Monsanto you are right and thanks to the revolving door between them and government there are some branches I hate as much. When Florence worked at Mound she was exposed to severe radiation at least three times thanks to their sloppy procedures. Twenty years later they remove a mass (17 - 19 cm in size and 2200 grams containing many ovarian cysts. The surgery was two hour, recovery several days. Six slides were sent to AFIP but she had never been in the armed forces. AFIP requested more sample and determined that had the operation not taken place she only had two months to live.

DOE tracked her all over they even phoned here (unlisted number) and when I asked about recompense all I got was NO. Yet there is a group in Providence RI set up to pay people such as her. However Monsanto and DOE have conveniently lost all records of her having worked at Mound and the number of times the exposure took place. It was suggested I go after the info under FOIA but since the info has been destroyed (Much conveniently went down the radioactive shaft in T Building) there is no information to be free with. Nice people are they not?

AFIP - Armed Forces Institute of Pathology. (And why they were involved we can only guess because she was never in the armed forces.)

We try to stay away from as much of that stuff as is possible. Alta Dena is a good dairy out here in California.

Rutter's just over the border in PA also does not use that crap on their cows.

Now if only this photo was sharper we might be able to read the ID badges.

Is that lovely lady on the left (Can you say alliteration?) who I think it is?

http://www.politicalchat.org/attachm...7&d=1435762582

I have a reason for reposting this pic this way....

BTW.... Oh! Those Eyes!

Best I can do. No name recoverable I fear.

Next question: Can you get affidavits from the other lady in the photo, or from anyone else?

Also, Armed Forces Institute of Pathology is neither Monsato nor DOE. Try the Freedom Of Information request with them. Who knows, might hit motherlode....

ALSO: It occurs to me that the subject in the photo can be identified, simply by comparison to other photos. If the header at top of the badge identifies a facility, that proves subject worked at that facility.

Here's a version of badge image enhanced to show header. Looks like TEW or TKW.

Florence in her mid to late twenties. She was testing bomb triggers then. John I have photos of her from 12 onward she was/is always lovely. The look in her eyes when I tell her that nowadays is priceless.

Even at that DQ we are in our eighties, if you follow the link in post 12 they admit that poor lady worked there but they are still stiffing her, and she is much younger. Now why did DOE call her so often if she never worked there? Dept of Labor is handling the payout and I suspect Monsanto has their buddies there as well. Frex why are we the only civilized country that allows use of their rBST growth hormone if they don't have friends in high places.

I know who AFIP is even have the case number AFIP #1747711 from their report dated June 17, 1980.

I think there are more than three letters, could it be MOUND?

TRW?

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Do you have that 1980 AFIP report? If so, does it not have 'where and when exposed' data in it? If not, what excuse is given for not providing it?

Can't say it looks like Mound to me. Is Pio's guess of TRW plausible?

I was sure that was her in the picture.:)

I'm also sure that you tell her often, and that her reaction is as you say it is. What a wonderful relationship.

I'm happy for the two of you.

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http://www.lm.doe.gov/Mound/Sites.aspx

That is a link to the clean-up - if you can call it that, cover-up might be a better description. Yesterday evening I re-scanned the photo. The original is a 6x9 B&W glossy but was apparently not taken with an especially great camera as scanning at 2400dpi does not reveal any readable detail of the ID badge. However I will send a copy of the photo to both places and a cover letter. I just do not want those lying bastards at Monsanto and DOE off the hook - to hell with the money.

Thanks John it is appreciated - these last 32 years have been the happiest of both our lives and I will take as many more as the good Lord will give us.

I don't believe that TRW was ever involved in Mound. Also none of the medical records that I have ever mentioned Mound. Yet why were samples (slides) sent to AFIP? Why did DOE keep calling ? To see if she was still alive? She remembers too much about that place, that the T building was basically the head of an elevator shaft to the underground part of the site. That she used to do inventory. Then go to one of the main buildings to enter this data into the computers.

I have scanned the AFIP letter and will see if I can attach the PDF

"She remembers too much about the place."

You might consider getting more plugged-in with the 'Mound claimants community,' which the TV report you linked-to indicated is large and at least somewhat organized. It could be that some of what Florence remembers, in the form of an deposition/affidavit, might help the cases of other people being denied.

TRW iirc was involved in a lot of hush-hush that afaik never saw the light of day. I think it's probably them.

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They may well have been but I am quite sure if that was on her ID Badge she would remember it.:rolleyes:

John recently a friend remarked to me that the blizzard of 83 was the best thing that had ever happened to me - he was right.:)

We need a "Thumbs-up" emoticon" here.

It occurred to me that the older lady on the right in that picture was likely a supervisor and it was quite likely that she might be recognized, along with the ID badges. So I sent the photo and the AFIP letter along with a covering letter outlining the reasons to the benefit committee. Not that I expect money I just want to embarrass the SOB who is sitting on her records,

It's possible that the header on the badge is an access code, allowing persons to tell at a glance if the wearer is authorized to be in a particular area. One might then posit that codes beginning with 'T' reference building 'T.'

That would make sense as there would be no need for office white collar personnel to have entered that hole. Calling it a building was sheer irony.

BTW AFIP was shut down Sept 15, 2011

Whenever the DOE called they also neglected to mention this outfit. What those bastards did now begins to look like criminal neglect.

http://www.worker-health.org/index.html

And that email address does not work.

So I found another site for WHPP and contacted them. It says someone will get back to the contactee in 48 hours.

That was last week - still waiting