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LawDawg 06-04-2015 07:35 PM

GOA and GOP Fight back against Tyranny
 
http://www.gunowners.org/alert6042015.htm

Hey Guys.....You all oughta "LOVE" the 4th point about abolishing the question about the race of a person filling out gun ownership.....if not, I sure would like to know why not.....

donquixote99 06-04-2015 07:40 PM

Tyrrany?

What we need is someone to fight back against hyperbole.

Rajoo 06-04-2015 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by LawDawg (Post 273347)
http://www.gunowners.org/alert6042015.htm

Hey Guys.....You all oughta "LOVE" the 4th point about abolishing the question about the race of a person filling out gun ownership.....if not, I sure would like to know why not.....

Is Political Chat your proverbial shooting gallery?

LawDawg 06-04-2015 07:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BeamOn (Post 273352)
Is Political Chat your proverbial shooting gallery?


No....But I am curious about what you think about #4....

Rajoo 06-04-2015 08:04 PM

I have no opinion on #4 but really not convinced that the ultra right wing GOA is really concerned with racism. Just camouflage for dismantling any gun ownership restrictions.

Now tell me what you think about what your buddy Teddy's jibe from yesterday.

http://www.politicalchat.org/showthread.php?t=9184

d-ray657 06-04-2015 09:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LawDawg (Post 273353)
No....But I am curious about what you think about #4....

Most such questions on official forms are voluntary and indicate that they are for statistical purposes only. But it would not fit the agenda to acknowledge that fact.

Ike Bana 06-04-2015 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by LawDawg (Post 273353)
No....But I am curious about what you think about #4....

Why do they ask for the applicant's gender? I know...because they're sexist.:rolleyes:

Like you right wingjobs give a shit in Dr. King's hat if some black gunner is being discriminated against.

Rajoo 06-04-2015 10:27 PM

LeyPerro is here just to lob TP bombs, never sticks around to answer any counterpoints.
Another shill IMO.

donquixote99 06-04-2015 10:30 PM

They ask for race and gender for the same reason as they ask for the name. But you don't suppose it just for his amusement that LD sets us up to defend the racist tyrrany of Big Brother, do you?

Aw shucks.

donquixote99 06-04-2015 10:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BeamOn (Post 273368)
LeyPerro is here just to lob TP bombs, never sticks around to answer any counterpoints.
Another shill IMO.

You'd better believe it. :)

BlueStreak 06-05-2015 12:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by d-ray657 (Post 273359)
Most such questions on official forms are voluntary and indicate that they are for statistical purposes only. But it would not fit the agenda to acknowledge that fact.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ike Bana (Post 273366)
Why do they ask for the applicant's gender? I know...because they're sexist.:rolleyes:

Like you right wingjobs give a shit in Dr. King's hat if some black gunner is being discriminated against.

Quote:

Originally Posted by donquixote99 (Post 273369)
They ask for race and gender for the same reason as they ask for the name. But you don't suppose it just for his amusement that LD sets us up to defend the racist tyrrany of Big Brother, do you?

Aw shucks.

I'm guessing the troll is trying to suggest that Obama wants to know the race of all gun owners so he can go after gun-toting white folks first?

Yawn.

LawDawg 06-05-2015 06:12 AM

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Originally Posted by donquixote99 (Post 273370)
You'd better believe it. :)

Now Don......are you pissing on me? :p:p:p

LawDawg 06-05-2015 06:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BeamOn (Post 273355)
I have no opinion on #4 but really not convinced that the ultra right wing GOA is really concerned with racism. Just camouflage for dismantling any gun ownership restrictions.

Now tell me what you think about what your buddy Teddy's jibe from yesterday.

http://www.politicalchat.org/showthread.php?t=9184

Why don't you think the GOA is concerned with racism? Got anything to back that up???? Or, are you just opining because you are engaging in "political racism????"

I think Ted Cruz made a mistake. Like all of us, sometimes we stick our foot in our mouths....I believe Ted is as capable as the rest of us of saying mean hurtful things....I seriously doubt he had any evil intention or purpose behind his statement.....people are people.....measure twice, cut once.....

I'll vote for Ted, Rick Perry, Ben Carson in a heartbeat....my "Champion of he Middle Class" ain't gonna ascend to the presidency riding the coattails of Bill....

Rajoo 06-05-2015 08:14 AM

What GOA stands for or thinks is insignificant to me, get it. You want to make a case from a propaganda drive on an insignificant topic, go ahead. Makes me wonder if the case, you or both are trivial.

I am not sure if you really understand our political or governmental structure or the constitution. Otherwise you will not be predicting martial law under Obama, disdain for ACLU, a Federal Police confiscating your guns and so on. All you do is repeat the fear mongering that is fed to the low information voters, which is brainwashing.

Do you understand the power and authority vested in the three branches of our government and that one branch cannot usurp the power of the other without changing the constitution?

LawDawg 06-05-2015 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by BeamOn (Post 273399)
What GOA stands for or thinks is insignificant to me, get it. You want to make a case from a propaganda drive on an insignificant topic, go ahead. Makes me wonder if the case, you or both are trivial.

I am not sure if you really understand our political or governmental structure or the constitution. Otherwise you will not be predicting martial law under Obama, disdain for ACLU, a Federal Police confiscating your guns and so on. All you do is repeat the fear mongering that is fed to the low information voters, which is brainwashing.

Do you understand the power and authority vested in the three branches of our government and that one branch cannot usurp the power of the other without changing the constitution?

Hey LeyPerro (don't really know what that means) I understand that's the way it's SUPPOSED to be.....He has a pen and he has a phone. If the Republicans won''t go along with him, he will act alone....(I write poetry too, but that was unintended)

I UNDERSTAND that he is doing anything he wants because he is NOT being challenged by the Judicial and Legislative Branches..He is ruling by Executive Order...."IF" is was as you say, he could NOT change items in Obamacare "AFTER" the better than 2000 page debacle was passed so "We can find out what's in it" to quote that wonderful mind, Nasty Pelosil

Isn't it "supposed" to be that if a law is amended after being signed into "LAW" that Congress should vote on and pass revisions and changes so that POTUS CANNOT act like Stalin or Hitler???

Yeah, I learned about the Triumvirate in high school....this asswipe is not acting like a third of the process because everybody on Capitol Hill is so Terrified of being labeled a racist for opposing him, they left their cajones in their state or district...

I'm NOT happy with Mitch McConnel and John Boehner..Hell, we may as well have Harry and Nancy back....

LawDawg 06-05-2015 08:29 AM

Post #13 concerning your bomb about GOA....you demand intellectual legitimacy from me, so....right back at ya,

LawDawg 06-05-2015 08:31 AM

Herman Cain was my original pick....before he was Borked by the MSM...and, IF y'all don't like Herman Cain......"Y'ALL ARE A BUNCH OF RACISTS!!!!" How bout that?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!

Ike Bana 06-05-2015 08:37 AM

1. Do you find that you're talking to yourself like this often?
2. Are you answering yourself back?
3. Do the answers come from inside or outside your own head?
4. Is the agitation, yelling, and hysterical laughter at the end typical of the course of these episodes?

I will base my recommendations on your honest responses.

Boreas 06-05-2015 08:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BeamOn (Post 273399)
Do you understand the power and authority vested in the three branches of our government and that one branch cannot usurp the power of the other without changing the constitution?

Except for the Supreme Court. :)

Boreas 06-05-2015 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by LawDawg (Post 273401)
Hey LeyPerro (don't really know what that means)

As should surprise nobody.

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.....He has a pen and he has a phone. If the Republicans won''t go along with him, he will act alone....
No, he has to consult the Grand Mufti before he does anything.

Rajoo 06-05-2015 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Boreas (Post 273411)
Except for the Supreme Court. :)

Brilliant! :)

finnbow 06-05-2015 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by LawDawg (Post 273405)
Herman Cain was my original pick....before he was Borked by the MSM...and, IF y'all don't like Herman Cain......"Y'ALL ARE A BUNCH OF RACISTS!!!!" How bout that?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!

Aw, shucky-ducky. It seems that far-right conservatives are drawn to candidates who seem as outspokenly stupid as they are. I suppose the personal insecurity typical of far-right conservatives (e.g., needing to bring a loaded AR-15 to an airport) compels them to pick candidates whose intelligence (or lack thereof) doesn't intimidate them.

LawDawg 06-05-2015 09:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ike Bana (Post 273409)
1. Do you find that you're talking to yourself like this often?
2. Are you answering yourself back?
3. Do the answers come from inside or outside your own head?
4. Is the agitation, yelling, and hysterical laughter at the end typical of the course of these episodes?

I will base my recommendations on your answers.

"Why Ike"....."I know, let's have a spelling contest".....

Ike, I'm having a good time and a lively debate with Rajoo (and the rest of you) by lobbing right wing bombs to answer the barrage of left wing bombs y'all are throwing....

A lot of the time, it's necessary for me to answer myself back because you people are so saturated with left wing bullshit, nobody could get it off ya if they scrubbed for a month....

They come from "inside" my head, I'm not agitated and the hysterical laughter is not necessarily hysterical....it's so Dave can follow the conversation

Let's see....are you the one who called me a pussy? or was that finnbow....

Anyway, I find liberalism to be very "pussyesque".....groveling, acquiescing, walking on egg shells lest you be perceived to be an enemy of a unisex androgynous society....if you had any testosterone, you'd feel obligated to apologize for it....you all are the type of guys who will not only allow political correctness and Andrea Dworkin (God rest her soul) to psychologically emasculate you, but, you'll cheerfully assist in the process

Am I too unrefined and rough around the edges for you?

Your recommendations are not likely to be a life changer for me....Cherrio, though.......Capt. Crunch to you, Dave.....Metamucil to you, Tom Joad...you'd feel better if you could unload a big steaming pile of the Democratic platform.

(Just playing with you guys)....have a nice day, I'm fixing to get in the shower and go try to stamp out pessimism and Communists....you bunch of Left Wing Trolls, YOU!!

LawDawg 06-05-2015 09:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boreas (Post 273412)
As should surprise nobody.



No, he has to consult the Grand Mufti before he does anything.

"No muff too tuff"....

Boreas 06-05-2015 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by LawDawg (Post 273420)
"No muff too tuff"....

I suppose it makes a certain amount of sense that you'd go there.

Ike Bana 06-05-2015 09:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LawDawg (Post 273419)
"Why Ike"....."I know, let's have a spelling contest".....

Ike, I'm having a good time and a lively debate with Rajoo (and the rest of you) by lobbing right wing bombs to answer the barrage of left wing bombs y'all are throwing....

A lot of the time, it's necessary for me to answer myself back because you people are so saturated with left wing bullshit, nobody could get it off ya if they scrubbed for a month....

They come from "inside" my head, I'm not agitated and the hysterical laughter is not necessarily hysterical....it's so Dave can follow the conversation

Let's see....are you the one who called me a pussy? or was that finnbow....

Anyway, I find liberalism to be very "pussyesque".....groveling, acquiescing, walking on egg shells lest you be perceived to be an enemy of a unisex androgynous society....if you had any testosterone, you'd feel obligated to apologize for it....you all are the type of guys who will not only allow political correctness and Andrea Dworkin (God rest her soul) to psychologically emasculate you, but, you'll cheerfully assist in the process

Am I too unrefined and rough around the edges for you?

Your recommendations are not likely to be a life changer for me....Cherrio, though.......Capt. Crunch to you, Dave.....Metamucil to you, Tom Joad...you'd feel better if you could unload a big steaming pile of the Democratic platform.

(Just playing with you guys)....have a nice day, I'm fixing to get in the shower and go try to stamp out pessimism and Communists....you bunch of Left Wing Trolls, YOU!!

OK well, let me give it to you clear from where I sit...

I will not be able to vote for a Republican candidate for any office so long as the GOP maintains it's basic social policy positions on women, gays and lesbians, workers, scientific method, medical research, theocratic intrusion in the governmental system, and turning over the country to corporatists and oligarchs.

I have abandoned all trust in our Congress fulla vote whores ever being able to properly perform it's duties under the separation of powers.

My only investment in the Executive Branch is the election of Democrats to the Presidency until the Supreme Court has a solid progressive majority that will last for the next several decades. The courts are the only hope for this country.

The typical political debate and discussion on forums like this is horseshit distraction with the entertainment value being of less substance than decent Gilligan's Island and Gomer Pyle re-runs.

So enjoy yourself with your rambling debate activies here. Just don't forget to change hands every few strokes to avoid the carpal tunnel syndrome.

LawDawg 06-05-2015 09:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ike Bana (Post 273427)
OK well, let me give it to you clear from where I sit...

I will not be able to vote for a Republican candidate for any office so long as the GOP maintains it's basic social policy positions on women, gays and lesbians, workers, scientific method, medical research, theocratic intrusion in the governmental system, and turning over the country to corporatists and oligarchs.

I have abandoned all trust in our Congress fulla vote whores ever being able to properly perform it's duties under the separation of powers.

My only investment in the Executive Branch is the election of Democrats to the Presidency until the Supreme Court has a solid progressive majority that will last for the next several decades. The courts are the only hope for this country.

The typical political debate and discussion on forums like this is horseshit distraction with the entertainment value being of less substance than decent Gilligan's Island and Gomer Pyle re-runs.

So enjoy yourself with your rambling debate activies here. Just don't forget to change hands every few strokes to avoid the carpal tunnel syndrome.


Okey Dokey.:)

LawDawg 06-05-2015 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by LawDawg (Post 273428)
Okey Dokey.:)


hmmmm.....Robert Bork vs Elana Soto Mayor.....I'd like to see the Supreme Court filled with Constitutional Judges that would rule on the law as is....as opposed to being an instrument of a dangerous, despot, ACORN Lawyer who was catapulted into office by the low information racist black voters....multiple votes without ID, dead votes and the New Black Panther Party standing on the steps in Pennsylvania, (was it) keeping pussies like you from going in and voting.....

So, MY recommendation is that we agree to disagree.....

LawDawg 06-05-2015 09:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ike Bana (Post 273427)
OK well, let me give it to you clear from where I sit...

I will not be able to vote for a Republican candidate for any office so long as the GOP maintains it's basic social policy positions on women, gays and lesbians, workers, scientific method, medical research, theocratic intrusion in the governmental system, and turning over the country to corporatists and oligarchs.

I have abandoned all trust in our Congress fulla vote whores ever being able to properly perform it's duties under the separation of powers.

My only investment in the Executive Branch is the election of Democrats to the Presidency until the Supreme Court has a solid progressive majority that will last for the next several decades. The courts are the only hope for this country.

The typical political debate and discussion on forums like this is horseshit distraction with the entertainment value being of less substance than decent Gilligan's Island and Gomer Pyle re-runs.

So enjoy yourself with your rambling debate activies here. Just don't forget to change hands every few strokes to avoid the carpal tunnel syndrome.

And one more thing....I'm a type 1 diabetic and I am against the murder of children in order to harvest stem cells so that I might be cured.:cool:

donquixote99 06-05-2015 09:52 AM

This is a message board for people, not a symposium of poli sci professors. BTW, if it were the latter, I assure you all that I could not stand to read it. Nonetheless, I suggest there is a spectrum with 'dishonest or unconcerned with truth bomb throwing' at one end, and 'sophisticated, scrupulously fact-based analysis' on the other. And I suggest our new poster's positive reveling in bomb throwing is dragging us far too far from concern for what is true and useful in our attempts to make sense of affairs today.

So, let's ignore him. Utterly.

Ike Bana 06-05-2015 09:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LawDawg (Post 273433)
hmmmm.....Robert Bork vs Elana Soto Mayor.....I'd like to see the Supreme Court filled with Constitutional Judges that would rule on the law as is....as opposed to being an instrument of a dangerous, despot, ACORN Lawyer who was catapulted into office by the low information racist black voters....multiple votes without ID, dead votes and the New Black Panther Party standing on the steps in Pennsylvania, (was it) keeping pussies like you from going in and voting.....

So, MY recommendation is that we agree to disagree.....



There are two types of SCOTUS justices, progressive activists and conservative activists. Suggesting that what you want are strict constructionists or originialists on the court is a steaming bucket of effluent. Insisting otherwise shows you up as either a liar or a fool.

Rajoo 06-05-2015 09:57 AM

LeyPerro, how does the constitution support the notion that corporations are people thus extending the 1A rights to corporations under Citizens United. I know I am over simplifying it but one should get my point.

Name dropping and misdirected insults are not good tools for an intelligent or even a semi-intelligent discussion. You do have a penchant of bringing up the least respected people in your arguments; or are people Ben Carson and Clarence Thomas just to camouflage your true feelings on racism?

Boreas 06-05-2015 09:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LawDawg (Post 273434)
And one more thing....I'm a type 1 diabetic and I am against the murder of children in order to harvest stem cells so that I might be cured.:cool:

How do you feel about in vitro fertilization?

LawDawg 06-05-2015 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Boreas (Post 273438)
How do you feel about in vitro fertilization?

We were headed in that direction 30 years ago as I have a translocated chromosome....got pregnant by taking meds and now we have 3 kids....grown up and moved out....

Boreas 06-05-2015 10:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LawDawg (Post 273433)
hmmmm.....Robert Bork vs Elana Soto Mayor.....I'd like to see the Supreme Court filled with Constitutional Judges that would rule on the law as is....as opposed to being an instrument of a dangerous, despot, ACORN Lawyer who was catapulted into office by the low information racist black voters....multiple votes without ID, dead votes and the New Black Panther Party standing on the steps in Pennsylvania, (was it) keeping pussies like you from going in and voting.....

So, MY recommendation is that we agree to disagree.....

Paranoid wingnut diarrhea.

The "New Black Panther Party" has maybe a few dozen members. Two of them were standing in front of one polling station in a black neighborhood in Philadelphia. After Fox News tried to make it into a "thing", the "New Panthers" were asked to leave. One of them was a certified election monitor so he stayed. The other one left. Not one of the voters interviewed.... again, this was a precinct in a black neighborhood.... said that they felt in any way intimidated.

And it's Elena Sotomayor.

But it's "furrin" so who cares.

Boreas 06-05-2015 10:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LawDawg (Post 273441)
We were headed in that direction 30 years ago as I have a translocated chromosome....got pregnant by taking meds and now we have 3 kids....grown up and moved out....

So, you're for it?

Ike Bana 06-05-2015 10:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LawDawg (Post 273434)
And one more thing....I'm a type 1 diabetic and I am against the murder of children in order to harvest stem cells so that I might be cured.:cool:

Yeh...sure, but you don't have a fucking thing to say about the hundreds of thousands of your alleged right to life right wingjob brethren authorizing the flushing of their excess embryos at the fertility center down the shitter so they don't have to pay the storage fees.

:cool: indeed...

Boreas 06-05-2015 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Ike Bana (Post 273447)
Yeh...sure, but you don't have a fucking thing to say about the hundreds of thousands of your alleged right to life right wingjob brethren authorizing the flushing of their excess embryos at the fertility center down the shitter so they don't have to pay the storage fees.

:cool: indeed...

Damn it! You ruined my surprise!

LawDawg 06-05-2015 10:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BeamOn (Post 273437)
LeyPerro, how does the constitution support the notion that corporations are people thus extending the 1A rights to corporations under Citizens United. I know I am over simplifying it but one should get my point.

Name dropping and misdirected insults are not good tools for an intelligent or even a semi-intelligent discussion. You do have a penchant of bringing up the least respected people in your arguments; or are people Ben Carson and Clarence Thomas just to camouflage your true feelings on racism?

Rajoo...I'm not acquainted with Citizens United....if Walmart is described or interpreted as an "entity" it's impossible. Walmart "consists" of people; Chariman of the Board of Directors, the Board, stockholders, managerial personnel, workers, etc....

I don't know why Corporations (people who compose them) would NEED to defend their 1A rights? Who is assaulting them?

Corporations don't pay taxes....we do. Go up on Walmart's taxes and they are going up in price of products....

I might read up on Citizen's United, but, I wouldn't classify corps. as people....There may very well be a street in NYC named "Wall Street" but when Wall Street is referred to, I get it.

Least respected....least respected by whom? YOU and the main characters in this forum are clearly on the Left. Groovy. This is America and we also have chocolate "and" vanilla because people are different....the fact that the Left disdains people I admire is of very little consequence....

There is very little consequense in y'all thinking I'm a racist....ultimately, "I'M" the only one in this forum that I answer to.....Don jokingly said we need (something, I don't remember, to guard against hyperbole)....I doubt I'll ever be able to successfully drag you to the water and pour it down your stubborn gullet....but, I ain't the only one around here throwing unsubstantiated bombs, accusations and innuendos.....

I disdain Liberal Idealogy, that damn liar in the Whitehouse....far left loons and the sycophants pitting us against each other while they laugh all the way to the bank....I wouldn't vote for Hilary Clinton if you went into the voting booth with me and held a gun to my head....I think she's dangerous as hell, and I probably always will.....it doesn't take a damn village to raise my child. My wife and I raised our children and didn't ask the village diddly squat. What in the hell is Behemoth Butt doing dictating what kids have for lunch in school anyway? Who elected her? If I want culinary advice, I'll go to Rachel Ray. (I like her butt....)

I'm not necessarily "starstruck" by the chance to get my info from the NY Times, the Huffington Post or wherever ya'll get yours from. I don't "think" your idealogy is inborn.....once again, we're products of our upbringing, life experiences and when we're old enough and sentient, what we choose to immerse ourselves in....

I admire Sarah Palin....I "LIKE" watching Fox News.....I LIKE Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, and I'm especially fond of Megyn Kelly..... and I like who I am.... Tom's assumptions about my familial sexual activities are absolutely hilarious. I'm just scrappin with you guys because I find the debate interesting. Hell, if I'm too stupid for you to deal with, don't respond to my posts, statements or arguments. I can

CarlV 06-05-2015 10:41 AM

Never heard of Citizens United? Wow.


Carl


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