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mech986 05-14-2015 05:16 PM

Missouri Speaker Resigns after SexTexting exposed
 
http://www.kansascity.com/news/gover...e20822424.html

After reading the text screenshots, I just wanted to point out one comment made in the Star comment section:

Brian Radcliffe · Top Commenter
Under Missouri law, marriage is a sacred bond between one man, one woman and one quivering intern.
Reply · · 40 · Yesterday at 2:31pm

Ed Minges · Top Commenter · Wichita State University
Only if you're very, very lucky.
Reply · · 3 · Yesterday at 2:39pm

That is all. I don't come over very often so may not be responding much. Cheers!

bobabode 05-14-2015 06:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mech986 (Post 270849)
http://www.kansascity.com/news/gover...e20822424.html

After reading the text screenshots, I just wanted to point out one comment made in the Star comment section:

Brian Radcliffe · Top Commenter
Under Missouri law, marriage is a sacred bond between one man, one woman and one quivering intern.
Reply · · 40 · Yesterday at 2:31pm

Ed Minges · Top Commenter · Wichita State University
Only if you're very, very lucky.
Reply · · 3 · Yesterday at 2:39pm

That is all. I don't come over very often so may not be responding much. Cheers!

Hey Mech, Good to see ya! :)

noonereal 05-14-2015 06:40 PM

I think the guy is an idiot for resigning.

Dondilion 05-14-2015 10:09 PM

Diehl did right to resign...powerful politicos should not get sexually involved
interns.

Rajoo 05-14-2015 10:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by noonereal (Post 270854)
I think the guy is an idiot for resigning.

A bigger idiot to have an ongoing affair and sexting with an intern. Even Clinton got caught. ;)

bobabode 05-14-2015 11:12 PM

Hoisted on his own little petard. :rolleyes:

sheltiedave 05-15-2015 07:15 AM

He replaced the dude who was intimately involved with a 14 year old and resigned.

Ike Bana 05-15-2015 07:17 AM

Why should politicians be expected to be different from anybody else? We're humans...we cheat better than we do just about anything else. We do it interpersonally, we do it in business, we do in the legal process, why are we expected not to do it in governance.

If somebody's doing their job and gets caught with their hand in the sexual cookie jar, what does that have to do with their job performance? We appreciate the spectacular performances of great actors and don't give their hopping in and out of bed with each other a second thought. As it should be...after all, it's none of our business.

America...the land of the incessantly provincial and the home of the phony pious.:rolleyes:

bobabode 05-15-2015 11:15 AM

http://www.trbimg.com/img-55559c7b/t...01/800/800x450

"Until his resignation from office on Thursday, the 49-year-old Diehl had been a hard-charging player in his state’s politics. As the leader of a dominant Republican majority, the speaker was counted as Missouri’s second-most-powerful state politico, next to Democratic Gov. Jay Nixon. Not at all surprisingly, the married father of three has always run as a family values candidate. The Missouri Family Policy Council, an arm of the right-wing evangelical Family Research Council, has praised Diehl “for demonstrating moral leadership and true integrity in standing up for the sacred institution of marriage and the family values of the people of Missouri.” The state’s arm of the Southern Baptist Convention offered thanks to Diehl for “fighting to defend biblical marriage.” LATimes

http://www.latimes.com/opinion/topof...514-story.html

Rajoo 05-15-2015 11:25 AM

Great toon Bob and thanks. :D

bobabode 05-15-2015 11:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BeamOn (Post 270933)
Great toon Bob and thanks. :D

;) Another Rightwing hypocrite bites the dust.

Ike Bana 05-15-2015 12:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobabode (Post 270934)
;) Another Rightwing hypocrite bites the dust.

Like the right has a corner on the hypocrisy market. Like the GOP has a corner on the philandering market. I've pretty much had a gut full of conveniently partisan sexual misadventure posts on this and every other lefty forum where I've been a member.

Like there aren't any liberal democrats who can't figure out how to keep it in their pants that we conveniently ignore.

donquixote99 05-15-2015 01:20 PM

It's totally fair. Didn't you hear? It's WAR!

;)

finnbow 05-15-2015 01:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ike Bana (Post 270942)
Like the right has a corner on the hypocrisy market. Like the GOP has a corner on the philandering market. I've pretty much had a gut full of conveniently partisan sexual misadventure posts on this and every other lefty forum where I've been a member.

Like there aren't any liberal democrats who can't figure out how to keep it in their pants that we conveniently ignore.

True enough. OTOH, Democrats don't seem to make a habit of holding themselves up as the high priests of family values.

bobabode 05-15-2015 01:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by finnbow (Post 270947)
True enough. OTOH, Democrats don't seem to make a habit of holding themselves up as the high priests of family values.

Indeed. The Missouri House voted to end their intern program over this.

Funny, I don't recall many lefties leaping to Anthony Weiner's defense for a similar escapade. ;)

Ike Bana 05-15-2015 02:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobabode (Post 270948)
Indeed. The Missouri House voted to end their intern program over this.

Funny, I don't recall many lefties leaping to Anthony Weiner's defense for a similar escapade. ;)

I don't remember many lefties ramming "hypocrite" down his throat either. I remember "idiot", and "moron" though. I remember Eliot Spitzer being call the same thing by lefties. Pretty innacurate to...he's a smart guy who knows the law. He's just not so hot in the sexual self self-control department. And that's my point bob. So he's a slut. So what? I'd vote for Spitzer for President. He's the one...actually the only one who took on the shyster banksters, when nobody else had the stones. He was Wall St's worst nightmare...and he could be again if the people of this country weren't so phony pious.

Rajoo 05-15-2015 03:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobabode (Post 270948)
Indeed. The Missouri House voted to end their intern program over this.

Funny, I don't recall many lefties leaping to Anthony Weiner's defense for a similar escapade. ;)

Probably because the university recalled all their interns like the state department does to ambassadors, so no more interns to be had.

finnbow 05-15-2015 03:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ike Bana (Post 270954)
I don't remember many lefties ramming "hypocrite" down his throat either. I remember "idiot", and "moron" though. I remember Eliot Spitzer being call the same thing by lefties. Pretty innacurate to...he's a smart guy who knows the law. He's just not so hot in the sexual self self-control department. And that's my point bob. So he's a slut. So what? I'd vote for Spitzer for President. He's the one...actually the only one who took on the shyster banksters, when nobody else had the stones. He was Wall St's worst nightmare...and he could be again if the people of this country weren't so phony pious.

While I understand and mostly agree with your sentiment, engaging in such behavior by people in high levels of the government with routine access to sensitive information is problematic due to an increased exposure to blackmail/coercion. It's how the Soviets entrapped plenty of folks into disclosing classified information and it is something scrutinized by investigators when one applies for a high level security clearance. In such instances, such behavior is bad regardless of party.

Without any national security implications, it seems worse with Bible-thumper types due to the hypocrisy angle.

noonereal 05-15-2015 03:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ike Bana (Post 270906)
Why should politicians be expected to be different from anybody else? We're humans...we cheat better than we do just about anything else. We do it interpersonally, we do it in business, we do in the legal process, why are we expected not to do it in governance.
:

well said

noonereal 05-15-2015 03:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dondilion (Post 270875)
.powerful politicos should not get sexually involved
interns.

why?

it is not a crime nor should it be.

so what's the problem?

noonereal 05-15-2015 03:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobabode (Post 270948)
Indeed. The Missouri House voted to end their intern program over this.

)

Stupidity.

Idiots, morons and jerks take a vote... big deal.

Rajoo 05-15-2015 04:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by noonereal (Post 270959)
Stupidity.

Idiots, morons and jerks take a vote... big deal.

Please read Post #18 for your answer.

Ike Bana 05-15-2015 04:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by noonereal (Post 270958)
why?

it is not a crime nor should it be.

so what's the problem?

Finn is gonna argue that their dalliance will leave them vulnerable to blackmail and other coercion that would threaten our national security. Ehhhh...I dunno. Nobody in the corporate boardrooms seems to be worrying about blackmail or coercion...they keep boinking the administrative assistants like there's no tomorrow. And I depend on them for a lot of my financial security these days. What scares me more? My compromised national security or my compromised financial security? The latter, I'm sure. And if we weren't such a nation of tight ass quasi-puritans we wouldn't give a shit about blackmail or coercion.

Some French politician gets caught having a fling and it's just another day at the office.

Pio1980 05-15-2015 04:34 PM

It comes down to trust, if a person isn't trustworthy in their most personal relationship, how can they be trusted otherwise.

Sent from my SM-N900V using Tapatalk

Rajoo 05-15-2015 04:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ike Bana (Post 270974)
Finn is gonna argue that their dalliance will leave them vulnerable to blackmail and other coercion that would threaten our national security. Ehhhh...I dunno. Nobody in the corporate boardrooms seems to be worrying about blackmail or coercion...they keep boinking the administrative assistants like there's no tomorrow. And I depend on them for a lot of my financial security these days. What scares me more? My compromised national security or my compromised financial security? The latter, I'm sure. And if we weren't such a nation of tight ass quasi-puritans we wouldn't give a shit about blackmail or coercion.

Some French politician gets caught having a fling and it's just another day at the office.

Oversimplification.

What we have here is a State University student assigned as an intern as part of her education to an elected government official, volunteering her services. It's a matter of public trust and if violating this means nothing to you, you should consider becoming a libertarian. One can claim that the woman in question was a willing participant. Even so the man should have known better under the circumstances.

As to CEO's boinking administrative assistants, that is a private matter.

Ike Bana 05-15-2015 04:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pio1980 (Post 270975)
It comes down to trust, if a person isn't trustworthy in their most personal relationship, how can they be trusted otherwise.

Sent from my SM-N900V using Tapatalk

I really don't think somebody's personal life is any of my business. If they're doing something illegal or unethical (and I just don't believe that being "Client 9" is unethical), that can be a problem. But sending gross selfies over the internet...I got actual important stuff to worry about.

finnbow 05-15-2015 05:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ike Bana (Post 270974)
Finn is gonna argue that their dalliance will leave them vulnerable to blackmail and other coercion that would threaten our national security...

If it weren't so, it wouldn't have been one of the primary methodologies of Soviet agents trying to compromise Western officials. Would I prefer that we had the public morals of the French? Sure. But we don't (nor does my wife;)).

bobabode 05-15-2015 05:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ike Bana (Post 270954)
I don't remember many lefties ramming "hypocrite" down his throat either. I remember "idiot", and "moron" though. I remember Eliot Spitzer being call the same thing by lefties. Pretty innacurate to...he's a smart guy who knows the law. He's just not so hot in the sexual self self-control department. And that's my point bob. So he's a slut. So what? I'd vote for Spitzer for President. He's the one...actually the only one who took on the shyster banksters, when nobody else had the stones. He was Wall St's worst nightmare...and he could be again if the people of this country weren't so phony pious.

See post #9 Ike. He's a bible thumpin', family values, anti-gay hypocrite.

Ike Bana 05-15-2015 08:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobabode (Post 270989)
See post #9 Ike. He's a bible thumpin', family values, anti-gay hypocrite.

I saw post 9 bob. He's a state legislator from some shithole in Missouri. Who cares If he's a bible thumping, family values, gay bashing hypocrite. Its a distraction. Eveybody knows these hypocrites are out there. Frankly, every time somebody rolls over a rock and finds one of these bugs underneath it...I don't need to be reminded anymore.

bobabode 05-15-2015 09:29 PM

Fair enough.

Dondilion 05-15-2015 11:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by noonereal (Post 270958)
why?

it is not a crime nor should it be.

so what's the problem?

It is a power issue.

Ike Bana 05-16-2015 06:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dondilion (Post 271017)
It is a power issue.

And that's a concern. And if the people of Missouri believe that this guy coerced a vulnerable adult woman into a sexual relationship (or for that matter, coerced any other adult person into any activity they might otherwise have rejected) they can run his hypocrite lame ass out of the Missouri state legislature. But it's Missouri, which is almost Kansas, so who can say?

merrylander 05-16-2015 07:46 AM

So in other words the bit in the marriage ceremony where they say;

"take this ring as a sign of my love and fidelity"

. . .it is just a few meaningless words? Who knew?



Not a crime but a civil offense called adultery and can get you divorced in a hurry.

CarlV 05-16-2015 11:09 AM

Does this mean he will run for Congress like his buddy Sanford?


Carl

Rajoo 05-16-2015 12:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CarlV (Post 271034)
Does this mean he will run for Congress like his buddy Sanford?


Carl

Born again politician after he humbles himself before god and begs for forgiveness of course. :rolleyes:

Dondilion 05-16-2015 12:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ike Bana (Post 271020)
And that's a concern.

Yes a legitimate one since those in a position of power can wield extraordinary
pressure... especially when an intern is so low on the totem pole.

merrylander 05-16-2015 02:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dondilion (Post 271057)
Yes a legitimate one since those in a position of power can wield extraordinary
pressure... especially when an intern is so low on the totem pole.

Ah but she was just a girl/woman all of whom were simply put on earth for men's amusement. Don't mind me I just got through joining HeForShe I can highly recommend it.

www.heforshe.org

noonereal 05-16-2015 05:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ike Bana (Post 270974)
Finn is gonna argue that their dalliance will leave them vulnerable to blackmail

mUCH RESPECT FOR pAT BUT i DON'T BUY IT.


Anyone can be blackmailed for about anything. It's simply not a direct cause/effect.

noonereal 05-16-2015 05:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pio1980 (Post 270975)
It comes down to trust, if a person isn't trustworthy in their most personal relationship, how can they be trusted otherwise.

Sent from my SM-N900V using Tapatalk

No one on this planet is trust worthy with the possible exception of mom.

CarlV 05-16-2015 07:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by noonereal (Post 271100)
No one on this planet is trust worthy with the possible exception of mom.

Makes me think of this BB King oldie but goodie. :p
Nobody Loves Me But My Mother


Carl


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