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finnbow 05-06-2015 03:58 PM

ISIS Opens a 5-Star Hotel in Mosul
 
http://www.independent.co.uk/incomin.../isishotel.jpg

I'd like to see the Happy Hour Specials in their lounge.:eek:

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...-10227777.html

djv8ga 05-06-2015 04:02 PM

Bible in the nightstand drawer?

matteos 05-06-2015 04:30 PM

A Tomahawk would help with the decor.

noonereal 05-06-2015 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by matteos (Post 269891)
A Tomahawk would help with the decor.

should have been done by now

bobabode 05-06-2015 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by matteos (Post 269891)
A Tomahawk would help with the decor.

Naw. One of these. ;)

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...lease_crop.jpg
GBU 57

catswiththum 05-06-2015 09:05 PM

Release 5000 swine in the lobby.

Fasten gopro to lead pig - post melee to youtube.

Enjoy new found wealth and satisfaction you struck a blow for sanity.

matteos 05-07-2015 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by bobabode (Post 269894)

Or maybe one of these...

http://www.armchairgeneral.com/wordp...Items/moab.jpg

Boreas 05-07-2015 02:58 PM

The MOAB (GBU 43) is an air burst weapon so it would take out a shit load of other stuff in Mosul and kill a lot of innocent people. The GBU 57 is a "bunker buster". It would detonate after penetrating the hotel. Collateral damage would still be pretty significant but nothing like with an air burst.

Both bombs are well over 20,000 lbs!:eek:

Dondilion 05-07-2015 03:47 PM

I find it hard to believe this hotel exists.

Probably someone is playing with the public.

Boreas 05-07-2015 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Dondilion (Post 269952)
I find it hard to believe this hotel exists.

Probably someone is playing with the public.

The hotel apparently existed before Daesh took control of Mosul. It's merely a question of its having changed hands... and purpose.

finnbow 05-07-2015 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Dondilion (Post 269952)
I find it hard to believe this hotel exists.

Probably someone is playing with the public.

Per the article, the hotel was the former Ninawa International Hotel (which had been highly rated on Tripadvisor, FWIW). ISIS is apparently trying to show it can not only conquer a city, but administer it as well. I doubt we'd deliberately bomb it because the Iraqi goverment (with our help, of course) plans to retake Mosul sometime this year.

Boreas 05-07-2015 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by finnbow (Post 269955)
Per the article, the hotel was the former Ninawa International Hotel (which had been highly rated on Tripadvisor, FWIW). ISIS is apparently trying to show it can not only conquer a city, but administer it as well. I doubt we'd deliberately bomb it because the Iraqi goverment (with our help, of course) plans to retake Mosul sometime this year.

Yup! That's what happens when you shitcan all the bureaucrats, managers, professionals and military of a country.... the people who actually ran the place. They band together to take it back. Daesh is full of old Ba'athists, many of whom only belonged to the party because they had to, and old military whose expertise far outstrips the current Iraqi army.

May Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz and Bremer all burn for an eternity.

whell 05-08-2015 01:10 PM

Christian be-headings for evening entertainment in the lounge.

Boreas 05-08-2015 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by whell (Post 270042)
Christian be-headings for evening entertainment in the lounge.

http://www.ubfriends.org/wp-content/.../2014/08/h.jpg

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...ed_as_heretics

whell 05-09-2015 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Boreas (Post 270047)

http://www.cnn.com/2015/02/15/middle...gs-christians/

d-ray657 05-09-2015 09:08 AM

Looks like a couple of very good reasons to keep a tall wall of separation between church and state, doesn't it.

Regards,

D-Ray

donquixote99 05-09-2015 09:37 AM

Yes. Keep sovereign power away from the church. They go kind of crazy with it.

Boreas 05-09-2015 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by d-ray657 (Post 270141)
Looks like a couple of very good reasons to keep a tall wall of separation between church and state, doesn't it.

Regards,

D-Ray

That's more or less my point, or tentatively approaches it. There is no religion in whose name the most barbaric acts have been perpetrated.

As far as I'm concerned, it's a toss-up whether religion has been a net positive or a net negative in human society.

Rajoo 05-09-2015 10:42 AM

Imposition of Sharia law trumps the wall of separation mosque and state.

d-ray657 05-09-2015 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by BeamOn (Post 270168)
Imposition of Sharia law trumps the wall of separation mosque and state.

As would the imposition of Canon Law. Neither are appropriate means for governing a pluralistic society.

Regards,

D-Ray

Rajoo 05-09-2015 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by d-ray657 (Post 270169)
As would the imposition of Canon Law. Neither are appropriate means for governing a pluralistic society.

Regards,

D-Ray

Agreed and I earnestly believe that religion was devised by man to control people. Anyone who believes that they understand or can define a god is insane. Best to leave god as a concept IMO.

catswiththum 05-09-2015 10:58 AM

Maybe we could just bring back the selling of indulgences.

I could use a get out of hell free card.

Just in case - you never know.

finnbow 05-09-2015 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by d-ray657 (Post 270169)
As would the imposition of Canon Law. Neither are appropriate means for governing a pluralistic society.

Regards,

D-Ray

Unfortunately, unlike the Bible, the Qur'an (and the Sunna (Muhammad's living habits)) essentially lay out a system of governance. Hence, serious Qur'an-thumpers can't abide the notion of a separation of Qur'an and state, nor the idea of democracy (the rule of the people as opposed to the rule of the book).

Boreas 05-09-2015 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by d-ray657 (Post 270169)
As would the imposition of Canon Law. Neither are appropriate means for governing a pluralistic society.

Regards,

D-Ray

Because theocracies of any kind are antithetical to.... are opposed to.... pluralism.

Boreas 05-09-2015 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by finnbow (Post 270174)
Unfortunately, unlike the Bible, the Qur'an (and the Sunna (Muhammad's living habits)) essentially lay out a system of governance. Hence, serious Qur'an-thumpers can't abide the notion of a separation of Qur'an and state.

You could say the same thing about the Talmud yet, for all its manifest faults, Israel has pretty much avoided the theocratic trap.

finnbow 05-09-2015 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Boreas (Post 270176)
You could say the same thing about the Talmud yet, for all its manifest faults, Israel has pretty much avoided the theocratic trap.

True, but Shabbat can still interfere with daily life there, no matter how secular you are. For example, Israel's trains and most buses do not run on Shabbat, nor on religious holidays. The entire country comes pretty much to a screaming halt for much of September.

Boreas 05-09-2015 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by finnbow (Post 270178)
True, but Shabbata can still interfere with daily life there, no matter how secular you are. For example, Israel's trains and most buses do not run on Shabbat, nor on religious holidays. The entire country comes pretty much to a screaming halt for much of September.

There are degrees to things like that. For instance, we observe various religious (and secular) holidays and, on those, businesses close and buses don't, or run on reduced schedules.

finnbow 05-09-2015 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Boreas (Post 270179)
There are degrees to things like that. For instance, we observe various religious (and secular) holidays and, on those, businesses close and buses don't, or run on reduced schedules.

Agree, but it sucks to arrive at Ben Gurion airport on Friday night or Saturday. My son has done it several times and ends up having to spend quite a sum for a taxi to his place in Tel Aviv when trains and buses connect the two 6 days a week.

Then there's Likud's (and further right's) view that they have a divine right to all of Judea and Samaria, notwithstanding the millions of Palestinians who live there (and have for millenia). Or, if you're dumb enough to take a wrong turn into Jerusalem's Mea Shearim neighborhood during Shabbat and have your car attacked and stoned.

Boreas 05-09-2015 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by finnbow (Post 270180)
Then there's Likud's (and further right's) view that they have a divine right to all of Judea and Samaria, notwithstanding the millions of Palestinians who live there (and have for millenia). Or, if you're dumb enough to take a wrong turn into Jerusalem's Mea Shearim neighborhood during Shabbat and have your car attacked and stoned.

Careful there, Pat! You may end up stirring a particular ghost! ;)

merrylander 05-09-2015 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Boreas (Post 270179)
There are degrees to things like that. For instance, we observe various religious (and secular) holidays and, on those, businesses close and buses don't, or run on reduced schedules.

Oops! And here I was under the impression that we observe these Holydays so that the stores could have big sales events.:)

merrylander 05-09-2015 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by finnbow (Post 270180)
Agree, but it sucks to arrive at Ben Gurion airport on Friday night or Saturday. My son has done it several times and ends up having to spend quite a sum for a taxi to his place in Tel Aviv when trains and buses connect the two 6 days a week.

Hmm I left on Saturday in the wee small hours but then one of the people from the session drove me there so I did not notice.

finnbow 05-09-2015 12:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boreas (Post 270182)
Careful there, Pat! You may end up stirring a particular ghost! ;)

Ain't dat da truth, Ruth?

finnbow 05-09-2015 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by merrylander (Post 270185)
Hmm I left on Saturday in the wee small hours but then one of the people from the session drove me there so I did not notice.

It's been in law since day 1. Recent attempts to change it got nowhere.

http://www.jpost.com/Israel-News/Pol...-uproar-396425


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