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Tom Joad 04-22-2015 11:06 AM

U.S. Marshal Rips Phone From Hands Of Recording Bystander
 
Another day, another rotten cop. This THUG needs to go to the slammer for assault.:mad:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/0...ml?ir=Politics

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Officials are investigating a shocking video that purports to show a U.S. marshal destroying the phone of a recording bystander.

The video was uploaded to YouTube on April 19 in South Gate, California, within Los Angeles County. In the clip, recorded from a building across the street, a bystander appears to be filming and talking to uniformed officials responding to a report of a biker gang meeting. A man wearing a bulletproof vest and carrying a weapon then grabs her phone, slamming it to the ground before kicking it down the street.

The U.S. Marshals Service identified the man as a U.S. marshal, but his name has not been released.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-J-6SkuKJ0

nailer 04-22-2015 11:43 AM

You're fear mongering.

Ike Bana 04-22-2015 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by nailer (Post 267862)
You're fear mongering.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=llZIRyNXMy4

Ike Bana 04-22-2015 12:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom Joad (Post 267851)
Another day, another rotten cop. This THUG needs to go to the slammer for assault.:mad:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/0...ml?ir=Politics



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-J-6SkuKJ0

This is deserving of follow up to see what happens to this "marshall". Perhaps job loss, perhaps federal charges for violation of citizens 1st amendment rights, perhaps fat chance, eh?. Having this fat fuck in civil court for the rest of his fucking life would satisfy me.

nailer 04-22-2015 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Ike Bana (Post 267871)

Your comprehension skills are lacking today, but as usual your lack of contextual sophistication...

Dondilion 04-22-2015 12:19 PM

I am the law and I am above it ... it is almost impossible to change this attitude with a section of the police force.

BlueStreak 04-22-2015 12:22 PM

An officer of the law, seizing a camera (private property) and destroying it, possibly because he feared it would catch him doing something improper, or downright abusive perhaps, should give everyone pause.

Cops getting rid of witnesses is not a good sign. It's what criminals do.

Dave

Ike Bana 04-22-2015 01:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nailer (Post 267875)
Your comprehension skills are lacking today, but as usual your lack of contextual sophistication...

Your parents were siblings.

Rajoo 04-22-2015 01:33 PM

"She was interfering with a police investigation and was dealt with. She should consider herself fortunate that she was not arrested for trespassing and obstruction of justice." :rolleyes:

And the camera? Police thought this could be a weapon and she didn't surrender it. Anyone want to bet this won't fly?

donquixote99 04-22-2015 01:45 PM

It's all a matter of interpretation.

Boreas 04-22-2015 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Ike Bana (Post 267887)
Your parents were siblings.

Here we go again.

Ike Bana 04-22-2015 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Boreas (Post 267902)
Here we go again.

What's you beef? You're one of the most prolific proponents of one personal comment deserving another. Or maybe you and Nailer are related, eh?

Pio1980 04-22-2015 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by BeamOn (Post 267897)
"She was interfering with a police investigation and was dealt with. She should consider herself fortunate that she was not arrested for trespassing and obstruction of justice." :rolleyes:

And the camera? Police thought this could be a weapon and she didn't surrender it. Anyone want to bet this won't fly?

Police state tactics. They don't want witness evidence.

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Dondilion 04-22-2015 02:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ike Bana (Post 267905)
What's you beef? You're one of the most prolific proponents of one personal comment deserving another. Or maybe you and Nailer are related, eh?

No Nailer is cryptic. :D

nailer 04-22-2015 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Ike Bana (Post 267887)
Your parents were siblings.

Where's that damned personal attack cop?

nailer 04-22-2015 02:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dondilion (Post 267912)
No Nailer is cryptic. :D

Although Boreas and I were homeboys back in the day. :)

JJIII 04-22-2015 03:02 PM

Somebody is gonna go to bed without supper!:)

Boreas 04-22-2015 03:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ike Bana (Post 267905)
What's you beef? You're one of the most prolific proponents of one personal comment deserving another. Or maybe you and Nailer are related, eh?

Shut up, Ike.

bobabode 04-22-2015 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by JJIII (Post 267915)
Somebody is gonna go to bed without supper!:)

There they go again. :rolleyes:

Tom Joad 04-22-2015 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by nailer (Post 267913)
Where's that damned personal attack cop?

I don't rat on by buddies. ;)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V5Mfs44MhYM

Ike Bana 04-22-2015 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Boreas (Post 267919)
Shut up, Ike.

Bite me, John.

matteos 04-22-2015 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by nailer (Post 267875)
Your comprehension skills are lacking today, but as usual your lack of contextual sophistication...

Cop violently snatched the property of an innocent female bystander and destroyed it.

If you're OK with that, great. mail me your phone and I will smash the fuck out of it.

matteos 04-22-2015 04:37 PM

Surprised she didn't get gunned down, she clearly went for his taser...

nailer 04-22-2015 04:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by matteos (Post 267940)
Cop violently snatched the property of an innocent female bystander and destroyed it.

If you're OK with that, great. mail me your phone and I will smash the fuck out of it.

How on earth did you get from my pointing out that the OP was fear mongering to this?

BTW, if "I'm OK with that," shouldn't you be knocking my phone out of my hand and smashing it?

Boreas 04-22-2015 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Ike Bana (Post 267929)
Bite me, John.

Even if I wanted to, I couldn't bite you. You're too far away.

But you could shut up.

Boreas 04-22-2015 05:05 PM

Easily half these fuckers are 'roided out Seal Team 6 wannabees.

And the marshal in that video fits the mold.

nailer 04-22-2015 05:15 PM

I am roided here me roar!

Wannabeism is to corporate fascist America as Wahhabism is to ISIS.

Tom Joad 04-22-2015 05:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boreas (Post 267948)
Easily half these fuckers are 'roided out Seal Team 6 wannabees.

And the marshal in that video fits the mold.

Yep, he's going for that Dickie Marcinko look for sure.

http://i843.photobucket.com/albums/z...xL._SL600_.jpg

matteos 04-22-2015 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by nailer (Post 267944)
How on earth did you get from my pointing out that the OP was fear mongering to this?

BTW, if "I'm OK with that," shouldn't you be knocking my phone out of my hand and smashing it?

How is he fear mongering?

I'm too lazy to travel and snatch.

Ike Bana 04-23-2015 07:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boreas (Post 267946)
Even if I wanted to, I couldn't bite you. You're too far away.

But you could shut up.

We could both shut up, John. But you're no better at it than me or anybody else you're trying to order around. Back to kicking the dog and micro-managing the offspring, eh?

icenine 04-23-2015 09:06 AM

Was that man in Baltimore killed inside a van by cops? Anyone tell me what happened?

Rajoo 04-23-2015 09:39 AM

The information on this case is still murky. Cops arrested Freddie Grey and he died while in custody. Rest for now is all speculation, of course an 'internal' investigation if being conducted and the six officers involved in this arrest has been suspended with pay. And as in Ferguson there is citizen outrage.

http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/mar...ry.html#page=1

Here is an article.

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/...timore/391158/

BlueStreak 04-23-2015 09:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BeamOn (Post 267897)
"She was interfering with a police investigation and was dealt with. She should consider herself fortunate that she was not arrested for trespassing and obstruction of justice." :rolleyes:

And the camera? Police thought this could be a weapon and she didn't surrender it. Anyone want to bet this won't fly?

A weapon? Sounds like Walmart and their sudden and tragic plumbing issues.

In other words it's blatant BS.

Dave

Boreas 04-23-2015 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by icenine (Post 268031)
Was that man in Baltimore killed inside a van by cops? Anyone tell me what happened?

Freddie Gray died in the hospital a week after the arrest. He suffered a crushed larynx and several fractured cervical vertebrae which resulted in his spinal column being almost completely severed.

We don't know whether he suffered the fatal injuries before being loaded in the van, after being loaded or both. The citizen video doesn't show anything before Gray was lifted from the ground and dragged to the van and there is no video of his trip inside the van.

This is purely conjecture but I think the injuries to his larynx and vertebrae were inflicted by a cop who dropped his knee on the back of Gray's neck. Gray's neck may been resting on the curb at that time. The fact that Gray was screaming in pain and had no control over his legs as he was dragged to the van supports this.

Also supporting this are Gray's pleas, while in the van, for an inhaler. Gray was asthmatic and was having trouble breathing. It's possible that the injury to his spinal column had begun to manifest itself as difficulty in breathing and that it wasn't an asthma attack at all. In response to Gray's pleas, the cops stopped the van, went into the back and put Gray in leg irons.

The next phase would be the "nickel ride", a.k.a. "rattling the can", a.k.a. "screen test", the practice of bouncing a restrained suspect off the inside walls of the van by erratic and violent driving. If this were done, it's easy to understand how Gray went from having difficulty in breathing during his ride to being unresponsive and not breathing at all when he was unloaded.

Zeke 04-23-2015 11:41 AM

"He suffered a crushed larynx and several fractured cervical vertebrae which resulted in his spinal column being almost completely severed."

Which if incurred during the process of arrest is unfortunate but this is what can occur if you do not immediately submit. (No resistance means no need for force of any kind.)

If he was injured at that point? Officers are not typically trained medical professionals and this stuff is faked all of the time. Normal procedure is to secure the offender, transport, and analyze upon arrival at county where (around here) there is an on call nurse. If Gray was previously injured and nobody noticed? Also merely unfortunate.

If he was harmed worse -- with intent -- during the ride? That's criminal.

matteos 04-23-2015 11:42 AM

http://www.thedailybeast.com/article...its-perps.html

donquixote99 04-23-2015 12:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BeamOn (Post 268035)
The information on this case is still murky. Cops arrested Freddie Grey and he died while in custody. Rest for now is all speculation, of course an 'internal' investigation if being conducted and the six officers involved in this arrest has been suspended with pay. And as in Ferguson there is citizen outrage.

http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/mar...ry.html#page=1

Here is an article.

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/...timore/391158/

Not all just speculation. We do know that Freddie Gray went into a police van in much better shape than he was in later when he went into the hospital where he would die.

One of many many things in the Atlantic article: "Four investigators from agencies outside Baltimore are working to determine who left a dead rat on the car windshield of an officer who was cooperating with prosecutors on a police brutality case."

But there's no blue wall, my friends. No blue wall at all.

Boreas 04-23-2015 12:41 PM

Here's a thing.

In Baltimore they call it a "rough ride".

In Philly it's a "nickel ride".

In Boston it's a "screeen test" (because of the heavy mesh partition inside the paddy wagon.

Other places call it "rattling the can".

Seems to me that, any time you come up with a cute little nickname for a thing, that name is widely understood and the thing it describes routinely practiced.

Cops are so cool.

Boreas 04-23-2015 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Zeke (Post 268049)
If he was harmed worse -- with intent -- during the ride? That's criminal.

Which is looking more and more like what happened.

He was conscious and breathing, although perhaps with difficulty, when he went in the van. While en route, he was put in leg shackles, in addition to the cuffs he already wore, but not seat belted per SOP. When he arrived at the Western District HQ, he was unconscious and not breathing, basically dead.

Something happened, Zeke, and, based on other similar incidents in Baltimore (one of which was virtually identical) and elsewhere, I think we all know what that was.

Ike Bana 04-23-2015 02:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zeke (Post 268049)
"He suffered a crushed larynx and several fractured cervical vertebrae which resulted in his spinal column being almost completely severed."

Which if incurred during the process of arrest is unfortunate but this is what can occur if you do not immediately submit. (No resistance means no need for force of any kind.)

If he was injured at that point? Officers are not typically trained medical professionals and this stuff is faked all of the time. Normal procedure is to secure the offender, transport, and analyze upon arrival at county where (around here) there is an on call nurse. If Gray was previously injured and nobody noticed? Also merely unfortunate.

If he was harmed worse -- with intent -- during the ride? That's criminal.

Unfortunate...your ass. The Mayor and Police Commissioner both have reported that officers reported that he was conscious and requesting medical care when they dragged him screaming in pain into the wagon. They did not provide medical care and when they dragged him out of the wagon and into the station house he was unconscious. By the time he was taken to the hospital he was comatose. They killed him.


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