Gun Control Isn't Popular With Most Americans
 

Another hit for Leftys.
http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank...hts-increases/

Yup! I know. Just goes to show that fear mongering works.

Fear mongering did cause a lot of gun control.

And the point is----?

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The point is that gun control is on the way out & the old white Dems (Hillary) who keep pushing the issue are out of touch with average Americans.

Also, a poll was conducted which makes it a current event. :rolleyes:

As a gun owner, I'm just not getting it.

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I can post it for you, but I can't understand it for you.

Yeah, well there's this:

See? Fear mongering.

Fuck it, I want me a Bofors 40mm...:D

Most Americans oppose gun control because of all the gun related and other violence going on out there. So, obviously what we need is less restriction and greater access to evermore deadly weapons. This dovetails nicely with their belief that the government is too big and too dangerous, so obviously what we need to address that is a blank check for the military and militarized, less restricted law enforcement.

There, does that clear things up for you?

Dave

See it as reality - not F.M.
Just because it works in your mind doesn't justify all the F.M. spewed by the Leftys.

Fear Mongering. :rolleyes:

No, as your link states, the increase in support for "gun rights" has been caused by a belief that violent crime is increasing but, in fact, it's at a 20 year low.

Why do you suppose that people believe violent crime is on the rise when it's actually declining? Couldn't be fear mongering, could it?

You missed the point.

It was meant to point out conservative "irony".

Of course, we've all seen what happens when conservatives are confronted with their own irony. This; :confused:

They just don't get it at all. (As is readily evidenced by your reply.)

Dave

Oh, how do we count the ways?

Just tune to any rightwing propaganda outlet and you'll get an earful of fear mongering all day long, 24/7/365.

Do you know the POTUS is trying to help Iran get nuclear bombs? Do you know you're never safe, not even in your own home, even if you live a hundred miles from the rest of humanity, unless you keep a loaded weapon within reach at all times? Did you know that Black Panthers will beat you up if you're a conservative and you show up at the polls on election day? Did you know that FEMA is building death camps? Did you know the POTUS is deliberately letting in Mexican criminals so they can chop the heads off of white cattle ranchers? Did you know that the United States is now a 3rd World nation? Did you know that..........

Oh, we could go on all day long. In fact Bullshit Mountain has grown so large it's blocking the sun. And, of course...........................................

It's all Obamas fault.:rolleyes:

Dave

I do not like your Brave New World.

I think one of the biggest problems in America is people believing they have a right to own weapons without restrictions. Of course they do not see it that way...but selfishness leads to Sandy Hook. The guy from Arizona has this nice quote about old men planting seeds for trees whose shade they will never enjoy but future generations will. Well gun control is a seed that should be planted so future generations do not get killed by self-absorbed and/or mentally deranged fanatics with semi-automatic weapons.

Exactly, Robbin. The short sightedness is amazing.

My question is; Are criminals and crazies manufacturing their own guns?

The answer, of course, is "No."

At some point they ALL pass through the hands of law abiding citizens. So, one would think gun owning, law abiding citizens would want to help us figure out what to do to keep them out of the hands of unsavory people, rather than dogmatically oppose any effort..............

So far, it's not looking like they even give a shit what happens outside their doors, so long as they have enough ammo to hold off the invaders for a while.

Dave

The 2nd Amendment was the nation's first arms control law.

I can't own M-80s firecrackers or switch-blade knives.........demanding a right to place an M-16 above my fireplace mantle, even if just to look at it,
is in effect demanding that EVERYONE, psychopath or not, have a right to buy one.

The background check does not work...no one checks the box next to the "are you a psychopath" question. IF they buy it at a store...

And those who blow the incidents of bad policing way out of proportion are at the FM cutting edge along with the gun nuts. It's all part of the blue/red political/corporate partnership we live under. Fascism American Style :)

Lots of stuff is and is not popular with Americans. Theism and religion are both very popular with Americans. That's pretty much all I need to remind me of how fucked-up Americans can be. But there are so many other things, like our fondness for drunk driving. Our geopolitical pompous arrogance. We could go on for pages, eh? Here's an interesting little graphic about American priorities:

http://www.upworthy.com/this-simple-...-up-priorities

The graphic image was too big, so I posted the link to the page. The comparison on the bottom pretty much tells the whole story. We're 20th in the world in per capita dollars spent on education and 1st in per capita dollars spent on incarceration.

So for the sake of argument, let's assume that the subject statement is legit.:rolleyes: Who cares what most Americans think? Most Americans are idiots.

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Is this well conditioned/controlled behavior a result of thinking?

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American Fascism you idiotic American!

Whatever American fascism there might be is just a small subtext of American idiotic thinking. Maybe it's time to consider not being Americans anymore.

I have a gun, I don't need it now, I may or may never need it. But, living in the hills out of town, I may need it for home protection someday. Chances are I'll never need it and like most folks, can probably get along without one. It's a tool with a narrow purpose, nothing more, certainly not the center of my being.

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If I'm insulting anybody, it's tough shit, I guess. But there are only two reasons for civilian hand gun ownership. Anxiety disorders/paranoia, and little dick syndrome.

You've got it reversed. Americans are not thinking which is why they are idiots. The way to obtain/maintain power is through fear and the way to maintain fear is through ignorance. Education counters ignorance. Overall our nation's education system was improving up though the late 60s/early 70s. Ignorance was on the decline and then everything changed...

You're just being one of those Americans you so often rant/rage on and on about.

OK, so I read it again and it seems to say that an incorrect unsupported perception of the crime rate is affecting opinion on firearm regulation. My perception of what has happened is that a rightist freakout over having a Democrat blackish POTUS has folks that already own guns and ammo irrationally buying even more in spite of reality.

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An excellent example of how American Fascism works.

I need my guns to protect me from all the paranoids and little dick syndrome crazies that have guns.

You're just yankin' my chain...right TJ? We don't live in Juarez or Port Moresby. You don't live in Juarez or Port Moresby, do ya TJ?

Worse.

I live in Alabama.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...ish_CV9040.JPG

I live too close to Arizona, I want a Bofors. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bofors_40_mm_gun

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My dad's halftrack in Korea was upgraded from a quad M2 to a Bofors during the war.

Get a Bofives, it goes to 11.

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Wusses...I live 15 miles from Gary.

A "....well regulated militia"... being what it is and all.

Dave

You got it. Any background check enhancement would have to far more in depth than what we have today and it would also have to cover the secondary market, somehow.

Problem is, we can't even have this discussion without causing a nationwide freakout.

Dave