Roswell and electonics technology
 

I'm not a big conspiracy guy, but one thing has always seemed like a no brain-er to me. I saw a show about how electronics technology grew after the Roswell incident. They had a line chart, that was fairly steady until that time, but then spiked straight upward. They went on to explain how the jump from vacuum tubes to solid state devices, had big gaps. In other words, tubes never reached their full potential before being passed up with silicon devices. The theory is of course that we reverse engineered components taken from the crash site. That's about all I know of it, but I'm wondering if anyone here could expound.

If you want to check out something that will curl yr fingernails backwards-If even 10% of it is true-Google "Dulce Base"...Obviously, 90% of it is blarney, but still...

ooow, creepy stuff Sandy. It just always seemed possible to me that a ship of some sort could have crashed. Some of you guys know that vacuum tubes are my hobby (read obsession), and I can actually take one apart, and it makes sense to me how it can move electrons in a controlled way. When I look at a mini micro chip though, I can't for the life of me understand how there can be 10,000 (or more) vacuum tubes inside that tiny piece of sand. I've never had anyone be able to explain in the simplest terms how chips work. Transistors even make a "little" sense to me, but chips don't. If you look at one closely under magnification, there is barely enough surface area to attach all the connections, much less have room left over for anything else. The rube here though, is how would they reverse engineer something like that? I'm really hoping this topic takes off, and that I can get some understanding of these technological marvels.

Well, I reckon all of the aliens from Outer Space have tin ears.

Otherwise, the would have come up with a better vacuum tube.

Don't suppose they were behind the nuvistor, do you?

Chas

Ha, good point. I often wonder how far tubes could have gone had it not been for the transistor. I read an article once that talked about how companies were starting to incorporate other devices inside the bottle as well, to make a "packaged" deal. I guess things like caps and resistors, but that sounded more like a marketing ploy to me. You would have to buy the certain part from whoever.

Another very quick jump was conventional jet fighters to stealth fighters. No halfway house; one day conventional, almost the next day fully developed aircraft that look about as aerodynamic as a house brick, and cannot be detected by radar.

Hmm, I never thought about that, but it is odd.

if we stole the technology for digital audio from the aliens, they can have it back!

Time and distance.
 

You know what really fascinates me about all this? It's not the lizard men or David Eyke. It's the faint possibility that some country might have got hold of bits of genuine alien technology, and understood it just enough to be able to use some of it.

UFOs. Forget initials; until it's been identified every UFO is an Unidentified Flying Object. Some turn out to be weather balloons, test flights of normally developed aircraft, or just plain mis-observation but it's the things reported by credible witnesses; people who know the ridicule they'll face that keeps me thinking.

I can't help thinking that whatever 'they' can do, we can eventually do; at least if we don't kill ourselves first. But what if whoever 'they' are are like us; using technology found by accident. How far back along the line could "we don't know how it works but it does" stretch?

The fascinating thing is that at source, there must be a race of intelligent beings who have either cracked the basic blocks that appear to prevent anything traveling faster than light, or who are so incredibly long lived that deep space travel at sub light speed is no problem for them.

If there is a race of highly intelligent creatures why on earth would they want any part of us?

Good point, Rob. I figger either as entertainment or maybe as food...

Curious to see how the other half live? Bit like visiting the local zoo.

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If there is a race of highly intelligent creatures why on earth would they want any part of us?

Maybe they're just check on number one son?

When I look around, humans (it you want to call us that) are the only thing that doesn't fit the natural order.

If you were to kick the average person out in the woods, bare assed naked and with nothing but their wits and skills, most of them would be dead in short order. Now if I were to kick my stupid little dog out there (and it's breed has been domesticated for years), I would imagine that it could make a go of it for quite a while. If you were to kick my old Siberian out there, it would have died of old age.

Case in point...where's the missing link? It may be so simple as a bunch of drunken spacemen flew in here, caught themselves a monkey, and had their way. Then flew back to the planet Zog, all down in the mouth and hoping they didn't give their wife something that they couldn't explain. Minute of pleasure, lifetime of pain.

Now put your tin foil hat's on boys, because I HAVE seen UFO's on two separate occasions. Wasn't swamp gas, wasn't a baby moon tossed in the air... it was the real deal. Don't ask me what it was, because I don't know. But both times, they were noticeably different from anything that I'd ever seen, even after reflection.

Now while I don't want to be abducted, any of them feringners that's up to it are invited in for a beer and a steak. I'll do the cooking and wash the dishes.

Come on down boys, and spend some time with your favorite son. I got nothin' against ya. And I'm buying.

Chas

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Now put your tin foil hat's on boys, because I HAVE seen UFO's on two separate occasions. Wasn't swamp gas, wasn't a baby moon tossed in the air... it was the real deal. Don't ask me what it was, because I don't know. But both times, they were noticeably different from anything that I'd ever seen, even after reflection.

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It seems most inexplicable UFO sightings are out in the wild, not near centres of polulation. Maybe this ties in with test flights of experimental aircraft, things they want to keep secret, at least for now.

Case in point...where's the missing link? It may be so simple as a bunch of drunken spacemen flew in here, caught themselves a monkey, and had their way. Then flew back to the planet Zog, all down in the mouth and hoping they didn't give their wife something that they couldn't explain. Minute of pleasure, lifetime of pain.

Thank you. A dick that looks like a mushroom. Just the thought to take to the workshop.........

That's the funniest damned thing I've ever read. :lmao:

Seems to me we fit fine into the natural order pretty darn well. We use other species energy and convert it to our own as every other animal does.
There is no missing link and further evidence is always being unearthed.
Darwinius masillae is often referred to as the missing link but there is much more evidence from other fossils as well.
As to Roswell, the official government documents are readily available on line due to the freedom of information act. Although much is blacked out for national security a quick read without preformed ideas makes the event pretty straight forward.
Look at nature, you can not site one living entity that does not use any and all resources available to it for itself. Why would life originating elsewhere be different?

As to how would man survive in the woods?
Just fine as we did.
The upstart might be tough simply because we have become a "web" species, relying on one another to do specifics tasks in order to advance all.
Not all that different than a Lion's pride just more advanced.

As to UFO's I also have seen one. Could have been anything. As I did not understand what it was I think I will arbitrarily decide that it was God come down to visit one night. It's as good an interpretation as a vehicle for little folk, no?

With all that being said I still believe that anything is possible and anything that is possible is probable. Just not probable at a specific time and place in a particular dimension. ;)

Ah yes, what was the name of that guy Erik Something who wrote the book about extra-terrestrials creating man in their image and put all those designs on the mountains in Ecuador.

Noonereal
 

Seems to me we fit fine into the natural order pretty darn well. We use other species energy and convert it to our own as every other animal does.
There is no missing link and further evidence is always being unearthed.
Darwinius masillae is often referred to as the missing link but there is much more evidence from other fossils as well.
As to Roswell, the official government documents are readily available on line due to the freedom of information act. Although much is blacked out for national security a quick read without preformed ideas makes the event pretty straight forward.
Look at nature, you can not site one living entity that does not use any and all resources available to it for itself. Why would life originating elsewhere be different?

As to how would man survive in the woods?
Just fine as we did.
The upstart might be tough simply because we have become a "web" species, relying on one another to do specifics tasks in order to advance all.
Not all that different than a Lion's pride just more advanced.

As to UFO's I also have seen one. Could have been anything. As I did not understand what it was I think I will arbitrarily decide that it was God come down to visit one night. It's as good an interpretation as a vehicle for little folk, no?

With all that being said I still believe that anything is possible and anything that is possible is probable. Just not probable at a specific time and place in a particular dimension.


You've made a lot of good points. Personally, every time I've run across something that I couldn't explain, I just figured that I didn't know what it was, and let it go at that. Perhaps an interesting topic for discussion, but it means no more than that to me.

Now if it should affect me personally, then I start to pay attention. If it doesn't affect me, I then conclude that it is none of my business, and the less I know about it, the better off I am.

But I'm gonna stick to my guns on people. It appears to me that the human race stands way to the side of all other creatures on this planet. Don't know why, don't much care, but we are different.

Good day,
Chas

Is it possible?
 

People have talked about UFOs for as long as I can remember. I would love to believe in them, looking up into the night sky and trying to get my head around the distances involved is also something I've done for as long as I can remember.

Scientists have always said that traveling faster than the speed of light is a basic impossibility. Has this changed? Is there any hypothetical, scientifically plausible way that could move a space ship at faster than light speed, or is the speed of light still an absolute barrier?

"quantum theory allows time travel on a microscopic scale"

Stephen Hawking

Scientists have always said that traveling faster than the speed of light is a basic impossibility. Has this changed? Is there any hypothetical, scientifically plausible way that could move a space ship at faster than light speed, or is the speed of light still an absolute barrier?


Looks to me like you could. All you have to do is go fast enough. I would also assume that no one could see you coming.

But where are you gonna go?
Chas

I want to see the brakes on this thing first. :D

Oz

if you can travel faster than the speed of light, why the hell would you ever want to stop?

I dunno; maybe to ask for directions?

"To Serve Man.....it's a cookbook!" :eek:

My father was a miner and I remember him telling us he and several of his friends worked on a government project that included drilling through a mountain. From what I can remember...it was his opinion.... that a military base was involved. I googled underground military bases and it falls in line with what I remember him saying.

Aliens? Anything is possible. IF there are such creatures (dunno why we call them creatures) I do believe they are walking among us. Super intelligent beings...who could be your neighbor. We always fear what we don't understand or know. The way the world is heading now...we could use a little intelligence and what a CHANGE that would be!!!Heh...

obviously you've never met my neighbors....

the germans were pioneering this tech. in 1944 not such a big leap. most conventional radars are simple to avoid. dopler and lidar are another matter.

I was told (by a reliable source) that back in the day some dumbasses cut off pieces of the craft to get a better look. All components are embedded in a one piece construction ( as if molded around all parts). No chance to make it work again and no reverse engineering. And just to peek you're interest, no obvious controls or food storage facilities.

:rolleyes:


It was a balloon. The classified papers have been available on line since around 2000. If they don't convince ya' just use common sense. :D

The way I figger it, if they was aliens, they wouldda abducted me by now.

Then again, catching me sober and unarmed at the same time may be problematic.

Bring it on, egg face!!!!!

Chas

Being armed won't help you. Your primitive weapons are useless.

However, being drunk may have saved your life. We.....I mean, THEY won't pick up an intoxicated specimen. Beligerant drunks are a PITA. And the alcohol f**ks up our torture, (Uggg, damnit!), I mean, THEIR "information gathering" techniques.

(I really wish Dick Cheney was still our, I mean THEIR spokesman.)

Dave

So yew an' Cheney's is runnin' things, huh? Where yew boys from...YerAnus????

Now I don't know how yew Egg Faces look at things up there on YerAnus, but down here in Missouri a Smith & Wesson ain't primitive by a long shot!!!!

But I'll jist tell ya'll somethin'. Jist to keep peace in th' intergalletic family, stop on by and we'ins 'ill jist pull a cork together. Hell, I'll even whoop up some gruel. Iffin ya'll don't like pork, ya'll outta jist go ta Whazzaupistan an' save me from havin' ta clean muh weapon.

Jist don't run yer mother ship off in th' ditch again. In between th' mad muthurs an' the Roswell Cops...yer Egg Face is gonna wind up on th' cover of the Enquirer!!!!

Chas

What the hell would they want with you or me?:confused:

They are intelligent!

Why, Thank You.

Dave

How else are they going to find out what we know?

Chas

Probably one of the best lines I've ever read. LMAO :D

Oh god, 'Chariots of the Gods'. AKA 'Idiots buy my book' :D

Well I did! lol

And teleportation avoids the whole thing altogether :yes: .

Rotflmao!!

Pete