Crisis and Openings: Introduction to Marxism - Richard D Wolff
 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9Whccunka4This is more excellent and more easy to understand. Fast forward to any place in the class and have your eyes and ears open.

I think I fixed the link.

I catch Richard Wolff frequently on KPFA and on Thom Hartmann. He's quite erudite and perceptive and makes quite a good case for Marxist ideology.

John

The problem with such ideologies is that they propose to make everyone love their fellows and look what happened to the last man who suggested we should love our neighbors.

Rodney King?

Lol!

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By the way, your link isn't.

John

That's tantamount to pulling a rabbit out of a hat IMO.

He can do that too.

John

Marx never ever never ever proposed any ideologies. All he did was critique capitalism. That is it. Nothing more. He never advocated anything. He never advocated at all. He wasn't an advocate. He simply critiqued capitalism. Everyone thinks he was this mysterious radical. They are all wrong.

He is going to be here next week. I am going to go see him in Santa Ana. He will also be in Newport.

He studied at Yale, Harvard and Stanford. He taught himself Marx later because no one taught it in the colleges because it was too scary for the powers that be.

Sadly VP others have thought that he did indeed espouse some sort of action and followed it, much to the dismay of millions upon millions dead.

Pete

I am not sure what you mean.

Get used to it.

John

He did espouse action. Some took up his cause. Communist Russia & China each killed as many people give or take as Hitler. Other 'Red' regimes throughout many areas of the world have been/are smaller scale but horrific for the inhabitants. As much as I feel for his message of rule of the common man I'm afraid his Utopia does not exist.

Pete

I'd say that if someone really wants to live under Marxism, they're more than welcome to move to North Korea. If they're lucky, they could play some pick-up hoops with Dennis Rodman.

I agree with Pete because I doubt that you will find a regime anywhere that is actually practicing Marxism. As the man said all pigs are equal but some are more equal than others (or words to that effect).

They misunderstood his meaning. Those are terrible examples. You can't go backwards. You have to work in smaller batches within the system. They used tyrannical approaches.

Marx has nothing to do with Utopia. Not one thing. There is no message, only questions.

Yet, every nation that attempted to implement his ideals turned into a homicidal economic basket case. I'll pass, thank you.

I suspect that what has really happened is his ideas were used by tyrants to delude the masses for the purposes of their own greed.

Now why does that sound familiar?

They never tried to implement anything that he is talking about. It has never been tried.

Because you're watching it happen here. But, to some of us, it's okay because it's Capitalists that are doing it this time around.

Why some always assume only one or the other ideology can be corrupted and abused is a mystery to me.

Dave

^^^

It's all about faith.

"Faith" is a tooth under your kids pillow. He might get his quarter, or whatever it is these days, but did it really come from the Tooth Fairy?

Dave

^^^

I knew there was no Tooth Fairy. Took the cash and kept my mouth shut regarding the TF and other childhood fantasies. Why ruin a good thing?