White Ignorance at the Core of Racial Tensions
 

An excellent article.

This guy really nails it.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dale-h...usaolp00000592

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Final paragraph:

"The "real problem" with Ferguson, New York, Cleveland or any other city where the police have executed black males is not "an attitude of victimhood." No, the real problem is the group who sit in their ivory tower doling out sage advice to people they clearly don't understand about a situation they have no experience with that does nothing but increase the ever widening gap in race relations. Because pretending to know what it's like to be black in America isn't even remotely close to actually being black in America."

Dale Hansen (author) is WHITE. He eradicates his own white guilt points.

The only "execution" in Ferguson was of a good cop's career.

The article sounds like defensive revisionism by a white liberal who got out way over his skis buying into the "hands up, don't shoot" meme, only to be proven wrong by the information released from the grand jury proceedings.

This is not to say that Rush Limbaugh and other members of the right-wing echo chamber aren't assholes, just like Al Sharpton and those on the other side of the Ferguson debate who chose to conflate the justified shooting of a violent felon with real instances of police brutality.

So you think that no black people would agree with him?

You think they are all in the Charles Barclay camp?

I think you should read the post prior to yours.

Tell you what I'm going to do, just for you and your pal Finn.

Next thread I start like this I'll make sure it's written by a black person.

And I'll throw it in your faces like ya'll threw Charles Barkley in mine.

That oughta make you happy.

I threw Sir Charles at nobody.

I only threw Charles Barkley out there after having been accused of being a racist, a bigot and a KKK sympathizer (in those very words) for saying that I believed that the Ferguson grand jury did the best they could in an ambiguous situation. I was curious if Sheltie Dave would make the same ridiculous claims about Barkley.

Whatever Dudes.

Up until now I've been hesitate about posting what the preponderance of black people are saying about this because of the inevitable backlash that it would get from "the usual suspects", but no more. The gloves are coming off.

Now, you're gonna become the spokesperson for the preponderance of black people. This should prove interesting.;)

I wish there were some black posters to represent their POV.

But internet political forums seem to be almost all white.

Which appears to indicate that blacks are smarter than us and know better than to piss away precious moments of their life on crap like this.

I don't know which ones of you were in on it.

All you baggers look alike to me.

Wait a minute.

Me, a teahadist?

Me?

You've lost your mind...

I've been so labelled too. My family and friends would find that highly amusing.

It was kind of like moving from southwest Virginia to New Orleans back in 1975. I was considered a Yankee in New Orleans, notwithstanding Virginia being the Confederate capitol and the birthplace of its military commander. Then, I found out that anybody north of I-10 was considered a Yankee.

Tom considers anyone to the right of Karl Marx a 'Bagger, including Bernie Sanders.

I don't think Bernie is with you on this.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/0...s-To-Ferguson#

-Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.)

I've pulled your mask off is what I've done.

But I've had a lot of help from you.

Oh please.

Now you're delusional...

You're the one that is in denial.

In the last three months since the Michael Brown you have shown your true colors. And they ain't very flattering.

By "true colors" you mean believing it's acceptable for a police officer who was attacked by a robber to defend his own life with deadly force?

Get a life...

Mirror, mirror on the wall ....

TJ, when you attempt to toss anyone who disagrees with you into the same basket as a group of political extremists, you succeed only in diminishing the confidence of other readers in your ability to evaluate anything objectively, if not impairing your overall credibility.

Regards,

D-Ray

You are way too nice D-Ray. I was going to suggest they get a ruler and start measuring to see who is winning this pissing contest.

Geeeezzz........ Don't we have any other dead horses around here we can beat to death? 😒

You are the most polite at evisceration I've ever read. I used to be like this...

More scotch, less coffee... (for me)...

All I got to say about it is that I'm sure as hell glad I'm not a black man in this country. As a white guy, I know the contempt so many white folks have for blacks (or Mexicans or most folks not white) . I know the kind of shit white folks say when they think they are in a "friendly" crowd..... I know how white folks profile black folks. And I certainly have benefitted from white privilege.

And I'm glad I'm not on the wrong end of that stick.....

Anybody besides me ever had the pleasure of experiencing the reaction of a pissed off copper when he began to realize you weren't going to be asking "how high" when he ordered you to jump? You can tell right away they get used to the power and control and don't manage it very well emotionally when it's not working for them.

Because that's all that Eric Garner was about. Pissed off, out of control coppers. Same with Rodney King in 1991. They guy was down and they kept beating him anyway. And anybody thinks if you're down and the beating continues you're not gonna try to get up and get away from it?

You are, without a doubt, the most self-absorbed schmuck on this forum. The most interesting thing is that you actually think anybody cares whatever the fuck you used to be like.:rolleyes:

Actually, he is one of the few people on here who have not discarded their ability to think logically in exchange for some politically correct narrative.

I'm sure we're all impressed with the assessment skills of a fucking dittohead. And on top of it, you think Zeke has much use for a right wingnut like you?

As repugnant as Zeke's views may be to many on this board, they are more consistent with the state of the law in the US than are the views of his critics. In other words, the laws are as responsible for the current situation as police behavior is.

The laws and and police behavior derive from needing to send people into rough neighborhoods to fight crime and keep the peace in places rife with crime, drugs, guns, broken families, limited opportunity, poverty ...

But for the grace of God, none of us are street cops in the mean streets of some American cities. Any of us could have been Darren Wilson had we had the inclination to be a cop around Ferguson.

And if you are unwilling to be Wilson, you cease doing the job and go back to school.

You don't have a coherent thought in your head I assume, or you would present it ?

I neither regret, nor apologize for anything.

Actually, Wilson's job performance was judged to be "average, but never went above and beyond" while working for Jennings.

And here is another, from his post commander...All the problems became too much for the city council to bear, and in March 2011 the council voted 6-to-1 to shut down the department and hire St. Louis County to run its police services, putting Lt. Jeff Fuesting in charge as commander.

Fuesting, who overlapped for about four months with Wilson during a transitional period, described him as “an average officer.”

“My impression is he didn’t go above and beyond, and he didn’t get in any trouble,” Fuesting said.

He also worked for four months in the ward that included Southwinds and Canfield, and like all Canfield residents, knew Big Mike. It is always difficult to not recognize someone who stands 6'5" in shoes and weighs almost 300 pounds. Maybe Wilson managed to do so...

You make it sound like the Green Zone.

The per capita number of Americans killed in the Green Zone was probably less than the worse of America's inner cities. Washington DC's mayhem peaked in the '90's with 479 murders one year in a population of about 600,000. It's about 100/yr now.

Check out these numbers for Detroit in 2013. I doubt the Green Zone had remotely as much violence inside its walls.

Murder and non-negligent manslaughter rate per 100,000 people: 45

Total murders and non-negligent manslaughters: 316

Violent crime rate per 100,000 people: 2,072

Total violent crimes: 14,504

Population: 699,889

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/1...n_6145404.html

It was just an invitation.

Regards,

D-Ray

I appreciate the invitation, however

Tried some Canadian Club last week. Went down nice and easy.

Regards,

D-Ray

If that is your goal.

Regards,

D-Ray