America – He’s Your President for Goodness Sake!
 

Good op-ed


The whole thing



Carl

That's some Canadian's view. So of course it's rational, and benefits from being able to take it all in from a vantage point, rather than being in the midst of the shitstorm. But no red blooded American is going to like criticism from a foreigner....

Not when he goes against the will of the people left and right alike. Gosh, I've heard more black people ranting about him lately than whites used to. That tells me that he's become few peoples hero and it really isn't about race.

He's been president for six years. At this point you're either a hero, or the goat for anyone who's unhappy about anything.

'Against the will of the people' sounds substantive, until you remember that the 'will of the people' is shifting, tricky to measure, and pretty much can be whatever the critic wants to claim it is.

Actually, it was measured in 2008 and again in 2012.

Ayup, by a healthy margin.

That would be the will of the people that voted. I sometimes wonder what the will of the people would be if everyone voted. This is nothing against Obama, just a curiosity. We have polls guessing the demographics of non-voters, but I think that the majority of people who don't vote are neither Democrat nor Republican and really have to wonder how some elections might turn out if so many people didn't feel their vote didn't count. American apathy has always baffled me. Are people really so busy that they can't take the time to care about what goes on in their own country?

Part is some feel their vote doesn't count, and some have told me they just plain won't vote again because they feel the system is broken on both sides.

I suspect that having the day of the vote a national holiday would increase voter turnout.

Maybe, maybe not. I have a hard time believing that not being able to get to the polls is a valid excuse. We don't even have polling places here. Everything is vote by mail and the closest you can get to a polling place is a ballot drop box if you waited until the last minute and don't have time to mail it in.

The author of that piece has obviously never lived down here or he would realize that dissing Presidents is the favourite American pastime, just watch any car dealer's TV commercials.

Agreed, it sure didn't start with Obie!

Pete

That's true, but it has been taken to a whole new level in Obama's case due to right wing racism.

And big money now willing and available to make use of same.

That's true, Nazi is much, much better.

Pete

Actually...at one time the government of this country was interested in making it as manageable as possible for as many people as possible to get to the polls and vote. Now, of course, only one of the parties is actually interested in this noble effort.

Why is election day always the first Tuesday in November?


www.infoplease.com/askeds/election-day-first-tuesday-november.html

Using the economy to unduly influence a voter? It's an outrage!!!!!!:rolleyes:


So...OK right-wingjobs...honestly now, which party looks bad in light of this? I await the raging convolutions in 4...3...2...

PS - if everybody voted, the GOP would never win another state-wide or national office again. They'd still probably have a majority in the US House since so many House districts are cabbageville backwaters full of ignorant clockstoppers. But that would be it...and they know it. OK...OK...they'd still have both Senate Seats in Utah, Wyoming and Idaho.

I think you are whining about some folks identifying Reich Wingers with the old time Sieg Heil bunch?

Let's look at it this way: is there anything wrong with racist, authoritarian warmongers? Seems to me that calling people on such attitudes, when they show up, makes sense.

Now, if someone were to be born in Kenya, is there, per se, anything wrong with that?

But of course Bush deserved the Nazi title, eh? Obama drone bomb any families lately?

How about: http://fc02.deviantart.net/fs42/f/20...by_dtack68.png



Pete

Cry me a river.

I can show reasons to call Bush a Nazi.

What have you got on Obama as a witch doctor?

I didn't bring up racism - eyes are dry ;)

Pete

No, you're just denying/ignoring it. That's something that does great harm, too.

And you are crying a river. Sob sob nazi chimp sob sob.

Dry eyes for racism, though. Got it.

There's racism, but to wrap all opposition (most?) to Obama as racial is playing the race card.

Playing the race card does great harm too.

Pete

It's a sad fact of life Pete, that often we are rightly identified by who we choose for our playmates and what we choose for our playground. If one chooses to put himself in the same pleasure boat with bigots one can always choose to get out of the boat.

It all started with the Birthers campaign way before Obama got elected.

"Yet a poll last week found that 47 per cent of Republican voters believed that Mr Obama, who is a Democrat, was not born in the US. Another 22 per cent said they were unsure."

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...-politics.html

So who brought race into the politics of this president?

If only Obama was white, I'd fully support his platform :rolleyes:

Pete

One of Pete's compatriots at the teabagger rally:

http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2009/PO...t.sign.cnn.jpg

But will Pete piss and moan about moderate Muslims not opening their mouths about their radical brethren?

Yeah, I fully support racists in the tea party. Same as I know the OWS guys that would blow up bridges were set up by the FBI.

What do you think about ivory tower intellectuals that despise the commoners they rule?

Pete

Iye-iyeiyeiye. Beers on me.

Pete

You have to understand pete, I'm from 60's radical stock. There were assholes out in the streets who more than anything were pissed off but wanted to express it by trashing shit. They were fucked up and it was difficult to keep them away from the reasonable activities. We also had Billy Ayers and Bernie and Diana Oughton and Linda Sue Evans and Mark Rudd, etc. And the Panthers and others. A lot of them were wrong headed. The OWS'ers have to deal with the same idiots now as we did then.

Thing is though what we wanted, what everybody wanted, even what the maniacs wanted more than anything was...social justice. Collectivism. A truly pluralistic social structure. Everybody did...even the violent shitbags had those goals. You can call it whatever you like, but even with all the infighting and conflict over gender roles and radical ideologies we were all on the right side of the fight. All of us.

The OWS'ers are on the right side of the fight.

Teabaggers are on the wrong side of the fight. Shitbag shyster welfare cowboy welchers are on the wrong side of the fight. Ted Cruz is on the wrong side of the fight. White male politicians telling American women they have to have a probe shoved inside them against their will before they can receive medical treatment that is nobody's fucking business, are on the wrong side of the fight. The Koch Brothers are on the wrong side. Soros is on the right side of the fight. Americans, Republicans and Democrats who are happy as pigs in slop with their employer sponsored health care programs and don't give a shit how many poor and sick people die every year who would have otherwise survived with a universal health care system are on the wrong fucking side of the fight.

If you're in the boat with them pete...you're in bed with them as well.

So you deny that Tom's and my points above are well taken? We're just 'playing the racism card?' Let me just say this: that 'card' bromide is crap.

You'd have to know how deep and wide the racism mobilized against Obama is, if you were willing to look. One way not to cry is not to have eyes.

Here's bit of your RW media $ at work. But you won't see the race-baiting here:

http://nypost.com/2014/11/09/playing-racial-games/

Invading and occupying a country much weaker militarily on trumped up charges seemed pretty Hitlersque to me.

Spanish lesson time bro.
It's Ay-yi-yi-yi, en Espanol. ;) Iye is Japanese for 'no'.

I'll buy the first round with my stipend from the Registrar of Voters for working the polls. Woo hoo, I made about $4 per hour working from 6AM to 9:30PM not counting the two hours of pre set up the night before

Modelo negro OK with you? :)

Hell ya!

But my buds on the west side would say, why's it gotta be black :D

My local grocer's got a new Goose Island on tap, 'Old Muddy'. I thought about FINALLY getting a growler jug and trying it till I looked more closely, licorice and sugar. Ruined! :)

My dad works the polls too, he enjoys it. I see it pays well :o

Pete

Good post. I remember being chastised for criticizing Bush. And he actually had tons of shit to criticize. He's our CIC they'd say, respect the office if nothing else. Boy howdy did that fly out the window. All it took was some melanin....

Exactamundo.

Yeh, I do it for the pay. :rolleyes:

:D

Pete