Rand Paul Taunts Hillary Clinton After GOP Victory
 

I remember doing a lot of trash talking like this back in High School the year we beat our cross town arch-rivals in Football 19-14.

The next year they crushed us 40-12. :o

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/1...n_6104868.html

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I think its a good way to make a point. If HuffPo wants to call it taunting, fine.

However, its worth noting that the presumptive Dem nominee for Prez in 2016 failed to be effective campaigning for Dem candidates in 2014. And she wasn't just anecdotally ineffective: she was serially ineffective. I think its worth noting and repeating, particularly to those who assume that Hillary is "unbeatable".

"Paul posted an entire Facebook album of photos of Clinton campaigning with candidates who lost on Tuesday. Each photo was tagged #HillarysLosers."

LMAO :D

Isn't it hilarious that this weasel dicked juvenile plagiarist is the heir apparent to the repugnant party? I hope the Klown Kar is gassed up and ready to roll because the primaries are going to be a blast to watch. :)

I don't know what's scarier: Rand Paul as a candidate, or Joe Biden being a heartbeat away from the Oval Office.

I like Joe. He's a lovable goof.

Dave

You voted for McCain, didn't you? :rolleyes:

Exactly what I'd look for in a leader of the free world.

Wonder how a debate between Joe Biden and Ronald Reagan play.

I like him too.

He reminds me of me.

That is a mistake a lot of people make, Biden is no goof, he was the only one to offer a sensible solution for Iraq - three separate states in a federation.

All the wise men thought they could form a single democracy between two mullah ridden muslim sects that have hated each other for 700 years and the Kurds who had been exploited by both Shia and Sunni. Look how well tht is working.:rolleyes:

...except we're not dealing with sensible people over there. A solution that is not workable is not a solution.

You're right. Biden is one of the smartest people in Washington. He would have made a great President.

His problem is that he is an honest straight talker who speaks his mind.

That doesn't work in politics.

i agree

rand is a considered and deliberate politician

he could go far

Biden's solution was the only solution that could work. A solution that retains the borderlines drawn in the sand by the British without regard to religion or ethnicity has no chance.

Did you ever tell that to your boys Bush and Cheney?

Nah. whell's line is that all GOP leaders shit pure gold.

It was on Fox!

Yup. And if you attached wings to pigs and threw them off a roof, they "could" fly.

Establishing a democratic form of gov't in Iraq was a worthy goal. Kind of like Obamacare. To bad neither of them worked out well.

It was an unrealistic and unattainable goal that cost a trillion dollars and over 100,000 lives and ultimately gave birth to ISIS. Spare me any more such worthy NeoCon goals.:rolleyes:

“No event in American history is more misunderstood than the Vietnam War.” (Richard M. Nixon, 1985)

This is a better excuse since there were no expectations other than fighting Communism. And then we built China into the world's second largest economy. :confused:

So exactly what do you think is happening there right now? The Sunnis are welcoming ISIS, The Kurds are going their own way and the new 'government' is sucking up to Iran.

Whell the muslims do not want democracy, they much prefer a theocracy. You would think that after all these years it would be clear to Americans that you can't give people democracy, they have to want it then it might be possible to help them get there.:rolleyes:

Yep. We're somehow still fighting a fight to retain some ill-conceived line in the sand drawn by a gin-besotted Brit after WWI.

Because American Religious Right is just as brainwashed, stuck in the distant past and mired in their own dogmas as the Islamic despots of the Middle East. And they hate Democracy nearly as much. :p

You're a peach, Sunshine!
Dave

Well, it's because we have a God-given authority to control the whole world.

You haven't heard?:confused:

Dave

Sounds familiar.:rolleyes:

Dave

To still maintain that the Iraq war was a good idea, given all we know now, is probably the most delusional thing I've ever read on this board. Pete will probably respond with a picture of an Iraqi woman with purple ink on her thumb as proof positive that it was a good idea, even in retrospect.;)

The Hashemites were the primary drivers of how the British drew the borders. The Tranjordan is still ruled by the Hashemite and Iraq was ruled by Faisal I of Iraq (Alec Guiness) until his death in 1933. The current problems were created by our overthrow of the Baathist regime and it's amusing the way Democrats forget that they supported OIF. Blaming the Brits a century after the fact for what's happening today is taking rhetorial hyperbole to the highest level of absurdity.

The drawings of the borders by the French and British in 1919 without regard to ethnicity or religion is indeed a large part of the genesis of the problems in the Mideast. It ain't exactly an issue of blame, per se, but simply some historical perspective.

As was true with Jugoslavia where Slovenes, Croats and Serbs were lumped together in one country after WWI, a strongman was needed in Iraq (as well as Syria and Lebanon) to hold together hostile factions once the Ottoman empire collapsed. Remove the strongman and whaddya get?

Tahseen Bashir, the famous Egyptian diplomat under Nasser and Sadat, had it (mostly) right when said "Egypt is the only nation-state in the Arab world; the rest are just tribes with flags."

If you really want to know just how bloody devious the British and French were in that area read Lawrence of Arabia's biography.

Who removed Iraq's strongman?

Which one?

I expect he means his autobiography, 'Seven Pillars of Wisdom.'

Lawrence really aligned himself with the locals and knew damn well that neither the British nor the French had any idea of standing by the promises they made.

Opening the borders over there to a redraw is a very, very bad idea. There is a reason it's not really on the table even in an Obama admin.

:o

How about the Arab Spring?

I think what's happening over there was going to happen in some form sooner or later. Shall we back the Saddams and Assads? Mubarak? I thought that's what poisoned the Central American well. We tried for better or worse and thinking Arabs know it.

So at least the big picture was attempted and it still has an effect. Even the 'small' picture is being abandoned now - Afghanistan. Hooray?

Pete

Why is it up to us to impose a solution? That itself is the genesis of the whole feckin' mess.

Leaving it alone sure didn't work Finn!

Pete

Dubya should have left it alone. If he had, we wouldn't be there now and our deficit would be $1 trillion less, not to mention the deaths and injuries.

Wonder what our buddy Saddam would be up to. Or what any of those countries would be like. But I don't have a crystal ball.

Pete