US job market's lingering weak spot: Stagnant pay
 

In other words s long as you are willing to work for shit wages you have a chance of finding a job.

So if you are unemployed go out and get one of those jobs that doesn't pay enough to put you in a taxable income bracket and maybe we can get that 47% "takers" number up over the 50% mark. :rolleyes:

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/us-job...183622424.html
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Ah but Tom you and I provide them with food stamps to supplement those shitty wages.

Yep. We get to subsidize Walmart's wage slaves.

Outsourcing and immigration, both legal and illegal have severely constrained
wages.

Agreed to the first premise.

The second has a historic flaw. Every new wave of patriotic immigrants wants to be the last. The dutchies resented the english and the english resented the krauts and we krauts resented the micks and the micks resented the wops and the wops resented them Puerto Ricans and Mexicans for picking the low hangin' fruit, unskilled labor jobs. Next up will be a buncha lunatics from the Donbass. ;) See how that works Don?

The 'Gangs of New York' represented a slice of that attitude.

Really? Sorry chum but when I came here I demanded and got paid well.

The wages for IT workers have been stagnant.

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/making-s...ch-worker-sho/

So we should omit immigration as a reason for stagnant wages?

No, it will always factor into wages. I seriously doubt that it is a major factor behind stagnant wages though.
I'm thinking it's more how profits are apportioned these days between wage earners and the owners/stockholders and the dearth of labor unions who can effectively negotiate a better wage.

Productivity is up, profits are up and wages are stagnant - sounds less than fair to me.

But moreso at different times.

It isn't.

But dark skinned people are a favorite scapegoat of the right wingers.

Got that right.

I would be interested in seeing some data and would keep an open mind. Whatcha got?

Well, well the massive inflow of Hispanic immigrants has not significantly affected construction wages?

Effect will vary in various markets at various times, but I'll be surprised if the offshoring doesn't DWARF any immigrant effects, when you look at the overall picture.

As soon as they're trained, licensed and following the code regulations they charge the going rate hereabouts. Dat's bidness. ;) If anything they are taken advantage of in my experience and opinion.

The funny part is that the construction companies have not lowered house prices as a result, in fact they raised them.

What is that fucking garbage they are using as siding and roofing material these days?

It looks like some kind of particle board.

OSB Oriented Strand Board

Yeah, it looks real durable. :rolleyes:

Actually it is not that bad if properly made. A lot better than Chinese sheetrock.

OSB 1-2-3

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oriented_strand_board

Hopefully better than the water soluble cracker wood used for construction some years ago and faux furniture anytime.

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