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Wasillaguy 08-19-2014 04:10 PM

Suicide by cop in North STL
 
Reports from multiple witnesses that the guy was saying "shoot me now" "kill me" as the cops were shouting for him to drop the knife.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...3-9d8c19cc1d45

Did this guy have his own personal problems, or did he sacrifice himself to throw gasoline on the entitlement riots?

Ike Bana 08-19-2014 04:15 PM

Suicide by cop happens a lot more frequently than the public might realize.

bobabode 08-19-2014 04:23 PM

Entitlement riots? You mean like the one we witnessed in Nevada earlier this year? :rolleyes:

Ike Bana 08-19-2014 04:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobabode (Post 238020)
Entitlement riots? You mean like the one we witnessed in Nevada earlier this year? :rolleyes:

Yeh...entitlement riots. There's some new right-wingnut terminology I've not heard before.

Hey! We're black...we're on public aid and living in section 8!!! We're entitled to riot once in a while!!!!!!!!!!!:rolleyes:

donquixote99 08-19-2014 04:31 PM

Nifty new meme! Links entitlements, which are loot sought by the undeserving, and riots, which are the undeserving seeking to loot.

Understand, it doesn't really make sense, but it becomes a brick in the worldview anyway....

bobabode 08-19-2014 04:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ike Bana (Post 238022)
Yeh...entitlement riots. There's some new right-wingnut terminology I've not heard before.

Hey! We're black...we're on public aid and living in section 8!!! We're entitled to riot once in a while!!!!!!!!!!!:rolleyes:

To be honest I had to google that lil' bit of wordsmithing. Interesting and telling bunch of sources there.

Of course the Bundy thing was more armed insurrection than riot. The feds ought to militarize the BLM with Apaches and Reapers. ;)

nailer 08-19-2014 04:33 PM

Read the article. Thread title and OP's last sentence are inflammatory. and the only witnesses mentioned in the article are the two police officers who gunned the citizen down.

Wasillaguy 08-19-2014 04:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nailer (Post 238025)
Read the article. Thread title and OP's last sentence are inflammatory. and the only witnesses mentioned in the article are the two police officers who gunned the citizen down.

Find another source and read another article, repeat as needed.
What's inflammatory about my sentence?

bobabode 08-19-2014 04:47 PM

I wonder if the actions of the Bonus Army were characterized as an entitlement riot?

nailer 08-19-2014 04:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wasillaguy (Post 238030)
Find another source and read another article, repeat as needed.
What's inflammatory about my sentence?

Your statement/opinion are not supported by your source. Find your own sources.

Wasillaguy 08-19-2014 04:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nailer (Post 238033)
Your statement/opinion are not supported by your source. Find your own sources.

I will, and so will you, or you'll remain willfully ignorant.

Ike Bana 08-19-2014 04:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nailer (Post 238025)
Read the article. Thread title and OP's last sentence are inflammatory. and the only witnesses mentioned in the article are the two police officers who gunned the citizen down.

I don't know if the thread title, in and of itself, is inflammatory. Seems to me it's come to be a fairly accurate common term to describe an increasingly common self-destructive behavior. And the police are the ones traumatized by it.

Not dissimilar from the traumatic experience that railroad locomotive engineers experience every time somebody walks out and stands between the rails in front of an oncoming train.

I worked for a time on a critical incident debriefing team where one of the populations we worked with were engineers from "suicide trains". Some of these guys never got over it...particularly the ones who were unfortunate enough to make eye contact with the victim just before impact. Jezuz...I can't imagine...

Ike Bana 08-19-2014 04:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wasillaguy (Post 238034)
I will, and so will you, or you'll remain willfully ignorant.

Oh c'mon man. Entitlement riots? Looters/arsonists and public assistance recipients are pretty much mutually exclusive groups.

bobabode 08-19-2014 04:55 PM

Sorry for outing you so quickly Was but don't you find the term "entitlement riots" to be a bit inflammatory?

Speculating on the corpse of a mentally deranged man who's unable to answer your spurious question is a new low pally.

Tom Joad 08-19-2014 04:58 PM

And the purpose of this thread is?

Could it be to cast dispersion on black dudes in general with the idea that some of it will rub off on Michael Brown?

Nah!

Wasilladude would never do anything like that.

donquixote99 08-19-2014 05:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom Joad (Post 238042)
And the purpose of this thread is?

Could it be to cast dispersion on black dudes in general with the idea that some of it will rub off on Michael Brown?

Nah!

Wasilladude would never do anything like that.

And to stoke racist paranoia. The idea that there could be black guys willing to sacrifice themselves 'to throw gasoline on the entitlement riots' really warps you away from reality, if you accept it into your head.

That someone thought that up and fed it to the OP is really creepy, actually.

Tom Joad 08-19-2014 05:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by donquixote99 (Post 238043)
And to stoke racist paranoia. The idea that there could be black guys willing to sacrifice themselves 'to throw gasoline on the entitlement riots' really warps you away from reality, if you accept it into your head.

Actually when I first heard about it, this is what came to my mind.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-immolation

http://i843.photobucket.com/albums/z...immolation.jpg

Wasillaguy 08-19-2014 05:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobabode (Post 238041)
Sorry for outing you so quickly Was but don't you find the term "entitlement riots" to be a bit inflammatory?

Speculating on the corpse of a mentally deranged man who's unable to answer your spurious question is a new low pally.

Well, they're getting bigger than just Ferguson, so I wasn't sure what to call them. St. Louis riots? The way the flames are being stoked, it's gonna be nation-wide here in a couple more days, so we'll be renaming it again.

I didn't realize the meme was already spoken for, referring to when our debt finally collapses all entitlements (that's gonna be fun).
I just thought it was a good descriptive name as it all seems to be about what people feel they're entitled to- cigarillos, walking down the middle of the street disrupting traffic, liquor, beef, cigarettes, attention, exemption from scrutiny, a boost in their media career, a boost in their political career, protection at the police command center while simultaneously bad-mouthing them to the world, etc.

bobabode 08-19-2014 05:24 PM

I really need to get into the bunker building business for folks just like you Was. :rolleyes: All I need is a D10 dozer and a steady supply of steel shipping containers and some steel culvert material. I could get rich. :rolleyes:

Tom Joad 08-19-2014 05:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobabode (Post 238053)
I really need to get into the bunker building business for folks just like you Was. :rolleyes: All I need is a D10 dozer and a steady supply of steel shipping containers and some steel culvert material. I could get rich. :rolleyes:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qFNBUs7O-h4

nailer 08-19-2014 05:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobabode (Post 238053)
I really need to get into the bunker building business for folks just like you Was. :rolleyes: All I need is a D10 dozer and a steady supply of steel shipping containers and some steel culvert material. I could get rich. :rolleyes:

Just remember that your competition will be independent/private militia types.

noonereal 08-19-2014 05:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nailer (Post 238025)
Read the article. Thread title and OP's last sentence are inflammatory. and the only witnesses mentioned in the article are the two police officers who gunned the citizen down.

Wasillaguy is a Palin playmate.

enough said

Rajoo 08-19-2014 05:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobabode (Post 238053)
I really need to get into the bunker building business for folks just like you Was. :rolleyes: All I need is a D10 dozer and a steady supply of steel shipping containers and some steel culvert material. I could get rich. :rolleyes:

You had the BOM right till you mentioned steel culvert. Why? ;)

Wasillaguy 08-19-2014 05:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by noonereal (Post 238064)
Wasillaguy is a Palin playmate.

enough said

If you had to spend a lot of time in a tiny bunker, she wouldn't be a bad choice for a buddy. The woman is very small, almost Lilliputian. Duct tape over the mouth would be mandatory though.

bobabode 08-19-2014 05:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nailer (Post 238062)
Just remember that your competition will be independent/private militia types.

Me and Tom Joad could be brothers from different mothers.
Right down to the steely blues eyes, the bad attitude and the grey goatee. I'll bet I can fool 'em. :)

icenine 08-19-2014 05:50 PM

In a little fairness to Was the Chief of Police was asked that same question at the press conference which took place at the scene. In 1992 I was in San Diego on a port stop and saw a guy downtown pull a knife out in front of a cop right on the street. The policeman pulled out his revolver right away and the guy dropped the knife.

Cops will shoot if you have a knife since they can cause great damage, especially if the person welding it is unstable. Is anyone who welds a knife stable anyway lol. I mean outside of self-defense.

djv8ga 08-19-2014 05:54 PM

Some people prefer a hammer over a knife - http://www.azcentral.com/story/news/...abrk/14085607/

Oerets 08-19-2014 05:59 PM

Second Amendment is a Entitlement per gun lobby.

Eating not so much?



Barney

bobabode 08-19-2014 06:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BeamOn (Post 238066)
You had the BOM right till you mentioned steel culvert. Why? ;)

The steel culvert is welded to the top for entry and egress after the container is buried. My business model includes recording the GPS coordinates to sell to the cannibal 'entitlement' army after the shit really hits the fan. ;)

'Bob's Custom Bunkers' tm
Our motto is -
'We Will Bury You To Your Specifications'
All rights reserved

icenine 08-19-2014 06:07 PM

When they were talking about Ferguson one analyst said that since the towns became more African American and poorer the white establishment began to rely on traffic citations as a means of revenue to keep the local government and police coffers full. I wonder if everyone in Ferguson is constantly being pulled over and given traffic tickets. Then I wondered if they have traffic cams there. Would not be surprised.

Wasillaguy 08-19-2014 06:08 PM

What you need is a gov contract to supply bunkers to those who can't afford one.

djv8ga 08-19-2014 06:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by icenine (Post 238074)
When they were talking about Ferguson one analyst said that since the towns became more African American and poorer the white establishment began to rely on traffic citations as a means of revenue to keep the local government and police coffers full. I wonder if everyone in Ferguson is constantly being pulled over and given traffic tickets. Then I wondered if they have traffic cams there. Would not be surprised.

Missouri's infamous for speed traps.

bobabode 08-19-2014 06:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wasillaguy (Post 238075)
What you need is a gov contract to supply bunkers to those who can't afford one.

Obama Bunkers! I love it!!! Your talents are wasted up there Palinville Was. Come back to SoCal and we'll make a killing together. ;)

Regards, Bunker Bob. :)

djv8ga 08-19-2014 06:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wasillaguy (Post 238075)
What you need is a gov contract to supply bunkers to those who can't afford one.

They make great foundations for cabins when dealing with flood regs. :)

bobabode 08-19-2014 06:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by djv8ga (Post 238079)
They make great foundations for cabins when dealing with flood regs. :)

Dude, get in on the ground floor. You can be my representative in southern Arizona. :D

djv8ga 08-19-2014 06:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobabode (Post 238080)
Dude, get in on the ground floor. You can be my representative in southern Arizona. :D

To much competition. My buddy/neighbor down south has 3 hooked to his house. He used camo netting for the carport too...no shit - LOL!

nailer 08-19-2014 06:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by icenine (Post 238069)
In a little fairness to Was the Chief of Police was asked that same question at the press conference which took place at the scene. In 1992 I was in San Diego on a port stop and saw a guy downtown pull a knife out in front of a cop right on the street. The policeman pulled out his revolver right away and the guy dropped the knife.

Cops will shoot if you have a knife since they can cause great damage, especially if the person welding it is unstable. Is anyone who welds a knife stable anyway lol. I mean outside of self-defense.

In close quarters some claim that a knife would be a better weapon than a pistol.

bobabode 08-19-2014 06:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by djv8ga (Post 238081)
To much competition. My buddy/neighbor down south has 3 hooked to his house. He used camo netting for the carport too...no shit - LOL!

If you aren't too averse to traveling I'll set up a franchise for you in Texas. Act quick before I get Nailer on board with my enterprise.

djv8ga 08-19-2014 06:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobabode (Post 238084)
If you aren't too averse to traveling I'll set up a franchise for you in Texas. Act quick before I get Nailer on board with my enterprise.


Maybe I can run a Straw Bale & Earthship construction division of your company.
Whaddya think?

nailer 08-19-2014 06:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobabode (Post 238084)
If you aren't too averse to traveling I'll set up a franchise for you in Texas. Act quick before I get Nailer on board with my enterprise.

I'm thinking the Obama Border Housing Project. We'll get rich and turn into Republicans.


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