Department Of Agriculture Cracks Down On Seed Libraries
 

More government B.S. File this one under police state as well.
http://cumberlink.com/news/local/com...9bb2963f4.html

The Seed Act of 2004 is a Pennsylvania state law, not a Federal law. I thought you were a states rights supporter, DJ.;)

The Pennsylvania State Department of Agriculture does indeed pass food safety laws that other states do not. If you look on the label of many food products, it will have a label "Reg. Dept. Penna. Agr." in order to comply with a 1933 law enacted due to concerns over mass-produced bakery items.

Nobody is selling seeds & the issue is claimed to be over Agro-terrorism, not baked goods.
Funny how Monsanto gets away with the seeds they sell.

Monsanto is the one behind these laws.

Maybe, but why then only in PA?

Monsanto got the same law passed in Afghanistan after they confiscated all seed crops after we invaded. No doubt Iraq as well.

I bet there are other similar laws on the books nationwide.

Monsanto is known for planting GMO crops next to private non GMO crops and then when the crops become cross contaminated they sue the farmer of the non GMO crop for copyright infringement.

They play dirty. Free capitalism is like that. One day Monsanto will control the entire worlds food supply.

Being protected by the Feds isn't "free capitalism." I think they would lose If they had to compete in the free market unless they changed their business model.

Why are they protected by the feds? Because they bought the laws that protect them. That is free capitalism.....

Monopoly is a game of free capitalism. And what is the purpose of the end game?

No, that's "crony capitalism." http://rt.com/usa/monsanto-protectio...ded-house-741/
That kind of protection isn't the norm in the private sector.

Funny how allowing the unchecked concentration of wealth and corporate power leads to monopoly which is antithesis to "free market" anything, isn't it?

Dave

It's government creating & protecting their monopoly.

Exactly. All one needs to do is look at the behavior of the "Big Three" automakers, before the floodgates were opened to foreign competition. (A governmental action, BTW.)

Like so many other things, taken to extremes free market capitalism becomes it's own worst enemy. The strong crush the weak and the field narrows as wealth and power is concentrated.

The government becomes corrupt when the corrupt businessman has the means to buy favors.

Is that really so hard to figure out?

Dave

You're only seeing half the game.

Dave

Anyone like Burpee left?

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If you didn't have big government ($$$), you wouldn't have Monsanto getting this treatment. Also, we do have antitrust laws that the government does not enforce. In fact, government does the opposite & picks favorites who will fill their war chests.

"One view, mostly closely associated with the "Chicago School of economics" suggests that antitrust laws should focus solely on the benefits to consumers and overall efficiency, while a broad range of legal and economic theory sees the role of antitrust laws as also controlling economic power in the public interest."

And you can't stop defending a corrupt government who thinks seed banks are potential terrorist threats. :rolleyes:

I could throw out the 'chicken and the egg' theory here but when you're coming from an Alex Jones conspiracy filled alternate universe, why bother.

As Dave said, 'You're only seeing half the game' plus you are willfully ignoring the forest for the trees DJ.

Anti trust law enforcement went the way of the dodo bird under St. Ronnie and succeeding Repub presidents.

Anti-authoratarian anarchy is no solution
You keep blaming "government" like it's some sort of sentient entity instead a public service beurocracy.
Eliminating it would only further empower the offenders, using it to make screwing folks without defense or recourse difficult, or better, impossible would make more sense than armed anarchy. In a so-called free society freedom isn't the freedom to screw folks that can't defend themselves, greed has ensured that we've never been truly free and that our governance has generally gone to the highest bidders, a republic of laws in a for-profit justice system nobody but the wealthy can afford.
You want better, work for incorruptible accountability instead of anarchy.

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Not hard to figure.

Russian Billionaires buy the UK government.

The oil men wrote their own regulations under George W. Bush. :D

All I can say is Bullshit. Also, I blame people like you who think it's ok for government to call people who trade seeds potential terrorists.
Sounds like you're the one afraid of losing an entitlement.

Seed trading = anarchy - WTF is wrong with you? :confused:

They do? Where?
And how am I "entitled" and Cliven Bundy gets a free pass?

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Maybe you should get out and look at the forest and the seeds you dirty hippie.

What does Bundy have to do with a seed bank?

:rolleyes: Pbbbbbbbbttttt. Says the minute-man. I've tried the back to nature stuff in the '70s. Nowhere to plug in my stereo.:rolleyes:

I know, you've tried everything. :rolleyes:
Besides, doesn't it take batteries?

You brought entitlement into the discussion, not me.
I'm not familiar with shenanigans with a Federally administered seed bank and commercial interests, I am very concerned about the inability to encourage a responsible regenerative agrarian model due to ineffective regulated oversight of commercial interests over common public interests.
I have it! Let's make the perpetrators accountable instead of blaming our representative gvt for our poor choices to geld regulation instead of enforcing it.

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Dude...are you fucking drunk? WTF federally administered seed bank are you talking about? We are talking about a little seed bank that some women created...period!

That's your bag dude :rolleyes:. No battery compartment in a Marantz 2270. Try again brosky. ;)

Really? Your postings made me think that Monsanto had a lock on a mandatory Federal seed bank in DC.

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Too many syllables Pio.

Here dude, some middle aged women & the little seed bank they created. Looks like a bunch of damn terrorists to me. My God, we better regulate them to make sure they don't start trying to kill people like Hamas does. :rolleyes:
WTF?

I'll have another look then.

Read your news article and got a good laugh at how you went from the library complying with state laws to big gubmint shitting on the little people. Then you brought up Monsanto DJ. Like Finnbow asked, aren't you the one who's a 'states rights' guy?

I think I'll put some beansprouts on my salad tonite DJ. You know how us "dirty hippies" are...:rolleyes:

"Seed terrorism" seems unlikely but so did 9-11. Private exchanges seem a better way to ensure qc and trust, unfortunately.

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Feeding seeds contaminated with blight or rusts into the bank isn't inconceivable , nor concealing invasive unproductive parasitic strains and species.
Do a Websearch on seed banks and vaults for some insight on what is being done for preservation.

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You are a complete idiot that knows nothing about what you speak of. How big is your farm?

Great contribution to the discussion, Luther Burbank must be resting easy with you the reigning expert on all matters agricultural.
How about something useful instead of reactionary kickback.

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DJ either loves abusing anyone who might disagree with him, or else has the lowest tolerance for contradiction on the planet.

"May i never make the vulgar mistake of thinking myself insulted when I am contradicted."

I came here to pc to try to understand points of view I do not find logical thru dialogue, his accusatory argumentative confrontational defense of these things makes that difficult.

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