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icenine 08-11-2014 12:28 PM

Hard Times For Main Street
 
http://www.nbcnews.com/business/pers...rs-say-n177746



I guess the Walmart wage paradigm hurts everyone.

Tom Joad 08-11-2014 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by icenine (Post 235738)
http://www.nbcnews.com/business/pers...rs-say-n177746



I guess the Walmart wage paradigm hurts everyone.

The greed of the rich is killing the goose that lays the golden eggs.

And when it's finally dead, they will blame Obama and the Democrats.

Pio1980 08-11-2014 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Tom Joad (Post 235750)
The greed of the rich is killing the goose that lays the golden eggs.

And when it's finally dead, they will blame Obama and the Democrats.

They are already doing that as part of the process.

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Dondilion 08-11-2014 09:56 PM

Companies are ever relocating/outsourcing so as not to pay decent wages.

Moreover States are in a downward spiral of competition offering the no-union, no taxes incentive.

The end result is there are not sufficient workers with the disposable income to light up Main Street.

I notice my mayor De Blasio in the thick of things. :D

nailer 08-11-2014 10:24 PM

Lower wages decreases cash flow. Bad business methinks.

Pio1980 08-12-2014 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by nailer (Post 235820)
Lower wages decreases cash flow. Bad business methinks.

Of course it does, where's the broad market without the means to participate. A lowered wage scale only serves a few, and so-called free-market libertarians only serve these few by "carrying their water".

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Pio1980 08-12-2014 10:38 AM

Dp, nt.

MrPots 08-12-2014 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Dondilion (Post 235818)
Companies are ever relocating/outsourcing so as not to pay decent wages.

Moreover States are in a downward spiral of competition offering the no-union, no taxes incentive.

The end result is there are not sufficient workers with the disposable income to light up Main Street.

I notice my mayor De Blasio in the thick of things. :D

That's where we are here on Topeka. Average wage keeps decreasing, high end stores like Macy's just cannot survive, while they keep building more Wall Marts, four now, in a city of 125,000 people that cannot even support a Macy's.

The Kansas art commissioner asked me earlier this year why I no longer involve myself in local art fairs. I told her it's because this is a wall mart town and wall mart people don't buy art that isn't from China.

And since taxes on the middle class keep rising and rising while they eliminate taxes on the rich, Kansas has no where to go but down.

Tom Joad 08-12-2014 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by MrPots (Post 235885)
I told her it's because this is a wall mart town and wall mart people don't buy art that isn't from China.

Maybe the art market is better at the very high end where the 1% shop.

They've been doing real well lately.

Do you have a shop that sells Piscasso originals?

Dondilion 08-12-2014 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by MrPots (Post 235885)
That's where we are here on Topeka. Average wage keeps decreasing, high end stores like Macy's just cannot survive, while they keep building more Wall Marts, four now, in a city of 125,000 people that cannot even support a Macy's.

In Brooklyn here we keep Wall Mart out so that Mom and Pop stores can survive.

MrPots 08-12-2014 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Dondilion (Post 235916)
In Brooklyn here we keep Wall Mart out so that Mom and Pop stores can survive.

Well God bless Brooklyn....

When wall mart is the only place to shop in the rest of the country, you'll have an oasis....

MrPots 08-12-2014 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Tom Joad (Post 235912)
Maybe the art market is better at the very high end where the 1% shop.

They've been doing real well lately.

Do you have a shop that sells Piscasso originals?

I'm making my escape plans to just such a place.

finnbow 08-12-2014 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by MrPots (Post 235930)
I'm making my escape plans to just such a place.

Santa Fe should be at the top of your list.

MrPots 08-12-2014 03:44 PM

I love Santa Fe...but it's in the wrong direction. My kids live in Charleston.

Tom Joad 08-12-2014 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by MrPots (Post 235928)
Well God bless Brooklyn....

You can say that again!

Now, if they could just get the Dodgers back everything would be right with the world again!

http://i843.photobucket.com/albums/z...d08443276b.jpg

Tom Joad 08-12-2014 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by finnbow (Post 235933)
Santa Fe should be at the top of your list.

Wouldn't Taos be better?

MrPots 08-12-2014 04:17 PM

Taos is really nice too. COL of both places is higher than I'd like.... and it's in the wrong direction.

Ironically both art artists meccas, but how artists can afford to live there is beyond me.

finnbow 08-12-2014 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Tom Joad (Post 235954)
Wouldn't Taos be better?

Sante Fe has more art galleries for a town its size than probably any city in the world. Here's a list with 176 of them.

bobabode 08-12-2014 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Tom Joad (Post 235953)
You can say that again!

Now, if they could just get the Dodgers back everything would be right with the world again!

http://i843.photobucket.com/albums/z...d08443276b.jpg

Ain't gonna happen. The Los Angeles Dodgers are here to stay. :cool:

Tom Joad 08-12-2014 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by finnbow (Post 235985)
Sante Fe has more art galleries for a town its size than probably any city in the world. Here's a list with 176 of them.

I'm not much into art, but I wanna go there for the scenery. It looks awesome in pictures.

The last time I was in New Mexico was passing through in 1962.

I did see a "This Old House" piece on PBS on Santa Fe and their architectural code is pretty cool.

Going to New Mexico and spending some time there is on my bucket list.

finnbow 08-12-2014 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Tom Joad (Post 236038)
I'm not much into art, but I wanna go there for the scenery. It looks awesome in pictures.

The last time I was in New Mexico was passing through in 1962.

I did see a "This Old House" piece on PBS on Santa Fe and their architectural code is pretty cool.

Going to New Mexico and spending some time there is on my bucket list.

My brother and his family live outside Sante Fe. It's a very cool place, chock full of restaurants, bars, galleries, etc. It's so pretty, well-preserved and culturally interesting that it can come off as a bit Disneyfied at times.

http://i837.photobucket.com/albums/z...ow/santafe.jpg

MrPots 08-13-2014 01:41 PM

The issue with art colonies, and this happens over and over again, is the artists start these colonies and make them hip and cool, then the money moves in because it's hip and cool to live there, and the money builds big houses and does restorations and they put in fancy restaurants and galleries and such, then the artists can no longer afford to live there so they have to move out.

MrPots 08-13-2014 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by finnbow (Post 235985)
Sante Fe has more art galleries for a town its size than probably any city in the world. Here's a list with 176 of them.

I bet I've been in every one of these galleries. I bought a wonderful Michael Parke's giclee "Eternity" at the Chalk farm Gallery. It's surrealists.

My sister in law from Missouri took one look at it and went WTF is that :)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=YQt1NNd0nQg

http://theworldofmichaelparkes.com/L...e_Fullsize.jpg

Pio1980 08-13-2014 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by MrPots (Post 236182)
I bet I've been in every one of these galleries. I bought a wonderful Michael Parke's giclee "Eternity" at the Chalk farm Gallery. It's surrealists.

My sister in law from Missouri took one look at it and went WTF is that :)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=YQt1NNd0nQg

Classy, did she vote for Gov. Brownstreak?

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MrPots 08-13-2014 01:56 PM

She's in Missouri......

I have very eclectic tastes. I have a pair of matching golds stained glass lamps from the early 1900s. They have bead trim. She thinks they are hideous even though they are perfect in the room.

Her house is fill of mauve knit Kleenex holders covered in plastic flowers.... wall to wall Chinese crap it that tells you anything.


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