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Tom Joad 08-04-2014 04:49 PM

The Democrat's War on Whites
 
I'm white and I haven't noticed that the Democrats have a war going on against me.:rolleyes:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/0...usaolp00000592

Quote:

Rep. Mo Brooks (R-Ala.) doesn't think that the hardline stance Republicans have taken on immigration could hurt the party’s standing with Hispanic voters. Instead, he thinks Democrats are hurting their prospects with white voters.

“This is a part of the war on whites that’s being launched by the Democratic Party. And the way in which they’re launching this war is by claiming that whites hate everybody else,” he said during an interview Monday with conservative radio host Laura Ingraham. "It's part of the strategy that Barack Obama implemented in 2008, continued in 2012, where he divides us all on race, on sex, greed, envy, class warfare, all those kinds of things. Well that’s not true.”

Brooks was responding to comments made by National Journal's Ron Fournier, who told Fox News host Chris Wallace on Sunday that "the fastest growing voting bloc in this country thinks the Republican Party hates them. This party, your party, cannot be the party of the future beyond November if you’re seen as the party of white people.”
more here

bobabode 08-04-2014 04:58 PM

"I see white people."

https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/i...9rk2jeD4Lvycjx

donquixote99 08-04-2014 05:04 PM

Silly Alabama person. The Republicans have already wedged off all the voters they are going to get with the Republican Race Card, but here it is again. Fournier pointed out that 'Republicans = white people's party is a loser, but Brooks' comments are an explicit embrace of that branding.

Rajoo 08-04-2014 05:14 PM

Again Obama's fault, somehow Brooks found a way to slip this in his comment.
Surprised that Hamas firing rockets into Israel is not blamed on Obama. :rolleyes:

nailer 08-04-2014 05:44 PM

Since before the previous turn of the century the Republican Party has stood on white values.

Pio1980 08-04-2014 06:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nailer (Post 234582)
Since before the previous turn of the century the Republican Party has stood on white values.

The acquisition of the expat Dixiecrats pretty much sealed that deal with the dark prince, their influence still pervades the Party.

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BlueStreak 08-04-2014 06:43 PM

I'm white and I couldn't care less if the GOP ever wins another election. In fact, I think a few more crushing losses might do them some good..........................

No. They will NEVER see what they are doing wrong, because in their minds they're never wrong.

Dave

finnbow 08-04-2014 06:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlueStreak (Post 234591)
No. They will NEVER see what they are doing wrong, because in their minds they're never wrong.

Dave

They're standing on principle.;)

4-2-7 08-04-2014 06:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlueStreak (Post 234591)
I'm white and I couldn't care less if the GOP ever wins another election. In fact, I think a few more crushing losses might do them some good..........................

No. They will NEVER see what they are doing wrong, because in their minds they're never wrong.

Dave

That sounds like Obama.

whell 08-04-2014 07:01 PM

I don't know why this comes as news to you guys. I don't know about a "war on whites", but the Obama campaign made a strategic decision in the last campaign to essentially ignore appealing to the "white working class".

For decades, Democrats have suffered continuous and increasingly severe losses among white voters. But preparations by Democratic operatives for the 2012 election make it clear for the first time that the party will explicitly abandon the white working class.

All pretense of trying to win a majority of the white working class has been effectively jettisoned in favor of cementing a center-left coalition made up, on the one hand, of voters who have gotten ahead on the basis of educational attainment — professors, artists, designers, editors, human resources managers, lawyers, librarians, social workers, teachers and therapists — and a second, substantial constituency of lower-income voters who are disproportionately African-American and Hispanic.


http://campaignstops.blogs.nytimes.c...ype=blogs&_r=0

The Democrat party has effectively positioned itself as the "party of the aggrieved", and is intent to use the mechanisms of government to bring about whatever social change it sees fit. The constitution is an impediment to this agenda, thus we first get the "nuclear option" employed by Harry Reid in the Senate, followed by a president with a "pen and a phone" who will do whatever he can to spirit the agenda forward.

bobabode 08-04-2014 07:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whell (Post 234596)
I don't know why this comes as news to you guys. I don't know about a "war on whites", but the Obama campaign made a strategic decision in the last campaign to essentially ignore appealing to the "white working class".

For decades, Democrats have suffered continuous and increasingly severe losses among white voters. But preparations by Democratic operatives for the 2012 election make it clear for the first time that the party will explicitly abandon the white working class.

All pretense of trying to win a majority of the white working class has been effectively jettisoned in favor of cementing a center-left coalition made up, on the one hand, of voters who have gotten ahead on the basis of educational attainment — professors, artists, designers, editors, human resources managers, lawyers, librarians, social workers, teachers and therapists — and a second, substantial constituency of lower-income voters who are disproportionately African-American and Hispanic.

http://campaignstops.blogs.nytimes.c...ype=blogs&_r=0

The Democrat party has effectively positioned itself as the "party of the aggrieved", and is intent to use the mechanisms of government to bring about whatever social change it sees fit. The constitution is an impediment to this agenda, thus we first get the "nuclear option" employed by Harry Reid in the Senate, followed by a president with a "pen and a phone" who will do whatever he can to spirit the agenda forward.

:rolleyes:Pbbbbbbbbt. I'm working class white and I voted for him twice. Even if I leaned right, the alternatives made it a no brainer. Grumpy McCain and Ditz Palin then Silver Spoon Romney and Lyin' Ryan. Once again with a Bronx cheer for ya Mike-Pbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbt. :rolleyes:

4-2-7 08-04-2014 07:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BeamOn (Post 234579)
Again Obama's fault, somehow Brooks found a way to slip this in his comment.
Surprised that Hamas firing rockets into Israel is not blamed on Obama. :rolleyes:

Sure it's blamed on Obama by him showing weakness to the world. All his movements of "Red Lines" is a sign of weakness that has emboldened enemies of democracy.

Pio1980 08-04-2014 07:49 PM

About the 'Pubs war on Obama---?

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Pio1980 08-04-2014 07:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 4-2-7 (Post 234614)
Sure it's blamed on Obama by him showing weakness to the world. All his movements of "Red Lines" is a sign of weakness that has emboldened enemies of democracy.

He's been a disappointment to me insofar as his poor choices in advisors and other delegated posts. The POTUS' major power is the power to delegate, and squandering that power on loyalists rather than the best experts in their respective fields regardless of affiliations is a sadly common costly mistake, also made by Reagan and Nixon as well.

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finnbow 08-04-2014 07:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whell (Post 234596)
I don't know why this comes as news to you guys. I don't know about a "war on whites", but the Obama campaign made a strategic decision in the last campaign to essentially ignore appealing to the "white working class".

For decades, Democrats have suffered continuous and increasingly severe losses among white voters. But preparations by Democratic operatives for the 2012 election make it clear for the first time that the party will explicitly abandon the white working class.

All pretense of trying to win a majority of the white working class has been effectively jettisoned in favor of cementing a center-left coalition made up, on the one hand, of voters who have gotten ahead on the basis of educational attainment — professors, artists, designers, editors, human resources managers, lawyers, librarians, social workers, teachers and therapists — and a second, substantial constituency of lower-income voters who are disproportionately African-American and Hispanic.


http://campaignstops.blogs.nytimes.c...ype=blogs&_r=0

The Democrat party has effectively positioned itself as the "party of the aggrieved", and is intent to use the mechanisms of government to bring about whatever social change it sees fit. The constitution is an impediment to this agenda, thus we first get the "nuclear option" employed by Harry Reid in the Senate, followed by a president with a "pen and a phone" who will do whatever he can to spirit the agenda forward.

Since when are "professors, artists, designers, editors, human resources managers, lawyers, librarians, social workers, teachers and therapists" aggrieved? It seem to me the whole idea of introducing the notion of a "War on Whites" is deliberately designed to aggrieve the white working class in favor of the GOP. Both parties play by the identical rulebook in that they try to inculcate the idea that the other party is out to get them. Hell, the GOP has even tried to sell aggrievement to the mega-rich. Poor dears.

4-2-7 08-04-2014 08:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pio1980 (Post 234617)
He's been a disappointment to me insofar as his poor choices in advisors and other delegated posts. The POTUS' major power is the power to delegate and squandering on loyalists is a sadly common costly mistake made by Reagan and Nixon as well.

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Hi Steve
After a weak Carter administration Iran sure let the hostages go as soon as Reagan took office.:rolleyes:

Pio1980 08-04-2014 08:02 PM

The whole civil rights movement was attacked as a war on white "traditional" values.

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Pio1980 08-04-2014 08:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 4-2-7 (Post 234621)
Hi Steve
After a weak Carter administration Iran sure let the hostages go as soon as Reagan took office.:rolleyes:

And RRs response to the Beirut Marine barracks bombing could be described as a bugout retreat rather than a strategically dictated withdrawal. The hostages deal was a major miscalculated prior agreement made by the Iranians to make a statement at the cost of a better outcome for them. In that respect the irony was ours to enjoy and theirs to regret as they had a much better opportunity for resolution thru Carter.

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finnbow 08-04-2014 08:14 PM

Speaking of the War on Whites, this timely Op-Ed piece discusses the legacy of Nixon's Southern Strategy, still alive today.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinio...f8a_story.html

mpholland 08-04-2014 08:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by finnbow (Post 234619)
Since when are "professors, artists, designers, editors, human resources managers, lawyers, librarians, social workers, teachers and therapists" aggrieved? It seem to me the whole idea of introducing the notion of a "War on Whites" is deliberately designed to aggrieve the white working class in favor of the GOP. Both parties play by the identical rulebook in that they try to inculcate the idea that the other party is out to get them. Hell, the GOP has even tried to sell aggrievement to the mega-rich. Poor dears.

Read that as the Democrats want to raise their taxes a bit. Look at the biting, screaming, and kicking that went on just when their tax rates went back to 39%. Hell, prior to the Bush tax cuts, 39% was the lowest they had ever paid in history. Far too low still in my book.

icenine 08-04-2014 08:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whell (Post 234596)
I don't know why this comes as news to you guys. I don't know about a "war on whites", but the Obama campaign made a strategic decision in the last campaign to essentially ignore appealing to the "white working class".

For decades, Democrats have suffered continuous and increasingly severe losses among white voters. But preparations by Democratic operatives for the 2012 election make it clear for the first time that the party will explicitly abandon the white working class.

All pretense of trying to win a majority of the white working class has been effectively jettisoned in favor of cementing a center-left coalition made up, on the one hand, of voters who have gotten ahead on the basis of educational attainment — professors, artists, designers, editors, human resources managers, lawyers, librarians, social workers, teachers and therapists — and a second, substantial constituency of lower-income voters who are disproportionately African-American and Hispanic.


http://campaignstops.blogs.nytimes.c...ype=blogs&_r=0

The Democrat party has effectively positioned itself as the "party of the aggrieved", and is intent to use the mechanisms of government to bring about whatever social change it sees fit. The constitution is an impediment to this agenda, thus we first get the "nuclear option" employed by Harry Reid in the Senate, followed by a president with a "pen and a phone" who will do whatever he can to spirit the agenda forward.


How the hell did he win Ohio without white working class votes...?

BlueStreak 08-04-2014 08:47 PM

Actually, if we're going to go there, the GOP is the "Party of the Aggrieved". I've never met so many whiney, victimized white folks in my life until the last five years. I can't believe anybody would even think otherwise. You'd have to be stone deaf and totally brain dead to not notice all of the panicky, bitchy, crybaby bullshit coming from our Caucasian bruthas and sistas.

For real. Am I alone in this observation? Wassup?

Dave

bobabode 08-04-2014 08:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlueStreak (Post 234639)
Actually, if we're going to go there, the GOP is the "Party of the Aggrieved". I've never met so many whiney, victimized white folks in my life until the last five years. I can't believe anybody would even think otherwise. You'd have to be stone deaf and totally brain dead to not notice all of the panicky, bitchy, crybaby bullshit coming from our Caucasian bruthas and sistas.

For real. Am I alone in this observation? Wassup?

Dave

Nope. Not alone at all. That's why I posted up a picture of Glenn Beck, the most pitiful white boy of them all.

4-2-7 08-04-2014 08:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobabode (Post 234647)
Nope. Not alone at all. That's why I posted up a picture of Glenn Beck, the most pitiful white boy of them all.

And your right behind him Bobby.

bobabode 08-04-2014 08:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by icenine (Post 234634)
How the hell did he win Ohio without white working class votes...?

Our friends on the right never, ever let facts get in the way of a good whine.;)

icenine 08-04-2014 09:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobabode (Post 234653)
Our friends on the right never, ever let facts get in the way of a good whine.;)

I mean I know it has changed a bit but there still an awful lot of pale dudes like me still living there....they do not all teach at the universities lol;)

mpholland 08-04-2014 09:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobabode (Post 234653)
Our friends on the right never, ever let facts get in the way of a good whine.;)

Is that anything like spilling whine on the facts machine?

bobabode 08-04-2014 09:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mpholland (Post 234662)
Is that anything like spilling whine on the facts machine?

Heh, good 'un. ;) I suspect that Beck's idea of a selfie is to sit on the scanner glass.

Pio1980 08-04-2014 09:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mpholland (Post 234662)
Is that anything like spilling whine on the facts machine?

Just like, tough cheese goes with that whine.

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bobabode 08-05-2014 01:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by finnbow (Post 234627)
Speaking of the War on Whites, this timely Op-Ed piece discusses the legacy of Nixon's Southern Strategy, still alive today.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinio...f8a_story.html

Well worth a read.

Add this one. http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...hern-strategy/

whell 08-05-2014 06:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by finnbow (Post 234627)
Speaking of the War on Whites, this timely Op-Ed piece discusses the legacy of Nixon's Southern Strategy, still alive today.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinio...f8a_story.html

Thanks for sharing this. It's been a while since I've read such a demigougic, hate-filled piece in WaPo.

Tom Joad 08-05-2014 06:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobabode (Post 234699)


It was Faustian bargain.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/faustian+bargain

finnbow 08-05-2014 07:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whell (Post 234704)
Thanks for sharing this. It's been a while since I've read such a demigougic, hate-filled piece in WaPo.

Truth hurts, eh?

donquixote99 08-05-2014 07:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whell (Post 234704)
Thanks for sharing this. It's been a while since I've read such a demigougic, hate-filled piece in WaPo.

Thanks! Your post motivated me to read this insightful and enjoyable op-ed.

I suspect this would be the paragraph that really set your teeth on edge....

Quote:

Excuse me for extrapolating, but segregationists are not merit-scholarship winners. Racism is dumb and so are racists. The Democratic Party showed racists the door. The GOP welcomed them and, of course, their fellow travelers — creationists, gun nuts, anti-abortion zealots, immigrant haters of all sorts and homophobes. Increasingly, the Republican Party has come to be defined by what it opposes and not what it proposes. Its abiding enemy is modernity.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinio...f8a_story.html

Pio1980 08-05-2014 09:25 AM

What I found interesting was the ref to Americans of African descent who chose to vote for Republicans who were not sympathetic allies, what I call "Jewish Nazi syndrome".
I may not always know who my friends are but my enemies alleviate doubt by declaring themselves in word and action.

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Tom Joad 08-05-2014 11:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by donquixote99 (Post 234707)
Thanks! Your post motivated me to read this insightful and enjoyable op-ed.

I suspect this would be the paragraph that really set your teeth on edge....



http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinio...f8a_story.html


I found this part interesting too.

And true IMO.

Quote:

Nixon was a complex figure — virtually a screaming liberal compared to today’s tea party types.

piece-itpete 08-05-2014 11:21 AM

Hmm, so every Dem before Nixon was racist. Check.

Actually there's some proof of this. To a degree - I wouldn't want to pull the lib trick of saying, well this or that one was so you are too ;)

I hope the left believes everything it tells itself. Up here in Yankeeville the GOP is working hard with the black communities. It wouldn't take many votes to sway Ohio at least into red.

Nixon was an interesting man. Too bad he was so flawed.

Pete

Tom Joad 08-05-2014 11:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by piece-itpete (Post 234734)
Hmm, so every Dem before Nixon was racist. Check.

Nope, but the majority of southern ones were.

But your boys gave them a home.

Good riddance.

Quote:

Originally Posted by piece-itpete (Post 234734)
I hope the left believes everything it tells itself. Up here in Yankeeville the GOP is working hard with the black communities. It wouldn't take many votes to sway Ohio at least into red.
Pete

If you want to win over some Africa Americans your going to first have to start going after your racists that are dragging you down by alienation them. But I don't see any sign of any Republican trying to do that.

For example, look at the conservative responses in this thread.

http://politicalchat.org/showthread.php?t=7938

I see nothing but conservatives in denial when confronted with this blatantly racist article in the National Review.

What the fuck are you thinking you are accomplishing by excusing crap like this?

nailer 08-05-2014 11:33 AM

Without his flaws Nixon wouldn't have been interesting.

He ran instead of facing his trial.

piece-itpete 08-05-2014 11:35 AM

Wilson was a Yankee.

Pete


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