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bobabode 07-30-2014 01:45 AM

"Smarter Than Thou" National Review
 
WTF? :mad:

https://www.nationalreview.com/nrd/a...1/smarter-thou

http://www.latimes.com/opinion/opini...729-story.html

BlueStreak 07-30-2014 04:51 AM

It's psychology, Bob. No one really likes to think someone else might actually be smarter than them. So, if you want to tap into that resentment (for purely political purposes), you paint people such as Tyson and colleagues and the others as "elitist snobs" and vilify everything they say and do as part of some sort of sinister plot.

This article is the National Reviews version of "Two Minutes Hate" and Neil DeGrasse Tyson is "Goldstein".

See how that works?

Dave

finnbow 07-30-2014 07:17 AM

Conservatives are frightened of an educated, informed public. Informed opinion on evolution, global warming, history, etc. would end up with them losing their support from the Religious Right, nativists, and large industrialists.

nailer 07-30-2014 08:46 AM

The ruling class is generally afraid of an educated headcount. Fear is a means to obtain, and more importantly, to hold power. Ignorance is the path to fear.

Tom Joad 07-30-2014 08:48 AM

Another Uppity Nigger what don't know his place.

That boy needs to be sent down the river to Mississippi where he can be put to working doing what God intended for him.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1vCK8mSyhb0

nailer 07-30-2014 09:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tom joad (Post 233636)
another uppity nigger that is threatening the 'murican way of life.

That boy needs to be put in his place.

archived

Tom Joad 07-30-2014 09:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nailer (Post 233639)
archived

Be sure to forward it to all your bagger friends.

donquixote99 07-30-2014 09:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom Joad (Post 233636)
Another Uppity Nigger that is threatening the 'Murican way of life.

That boy needs to be put in his place.

There no doubt that the cover, with it's smug caricature black man and the big type "SMARTER THAN THOU," is consciously punching a big button for that portion of their readership that has 'superior to blacks' as a tenet of their identity. They are working racial resentment as well as anti-intellectual resentment here.

https://www.nationalreview.com/sites...140721_toc.jpg

nailer 07-30-2014 09:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by donquixote99 (Post 233641)
There no doubt that the cover, with it's smug caricature black man and the big type "SMARTER THAN THOU," is consciously punching a big button for that portion of their readership that has 'superior to blacks' as a tenet of their identity. They are working racial resentment as well as anti-intellectual resentment here.

https://www.nationalreview.com/sites...140721_toc.jpg

Many American conservatives are rolling over in their graves ...

Ike Bana 07-30-2014 09:24 AM

When one considers that there's a choice between the George Will types and the Rush Limbaugh types...it shouldn't surprise anybody much that the GOP has been bleeding out for 25 years, at least in the one nationwide election.

Rajoo 07-30-2014 09:35 AM

From the LA Times article, this is absolutely mind boggling.

"Consider this: In 1995, the Congressional Office of Technology Assessment — a nonpartisan panel of scientists and researchers assembled to offer objective technical guidance to Congress on scientifically complex issues — was stripped of all funding, effectively shutting it down. (Officially, it still exists on paper.) It has remained unfunded ever since. (Thanks, Newt Gingrich.) An attempt in May to provide a paltry $2.5 million to the office was stymied by House Republicans.

In a world where advanced technology has infiltrated nearly every corner of our lives — raising a litany of technical, ethical and legal challenges — our government is willfully scientifically illiterate."


Creationism anyone? Global warming, what is that? :mad:

icenine 07-30-2014 10:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BeamOn (Post 233644)
From the LA Times article, this is absolutely mind boggling.

"Consider this: In 1995, the Congressional Office of Technology Assessment — a nonpartisan panel of scientists and researchers assembled to offer objective technical guidance to Congress on scientifically complex issues — was stripped of all funding, effectively shutting it down. (Officially, it still exists on paper.) It has remained unfunded ever since. (Thanks, Newt Gingrich.) An attempt in May to provide a paltry $2.5 million to the office was stymied by House Republicans.

In a world where advanced technology has infiltrated nearly every corner of our lives — raising a litany of technical, ethical and legal challenges — our government is willfully scientifically illiterate."


Creationism anyone? Global warming, what is that? :mad:

It is all part and parcel of the GOP dumbing themselves down so as to appeal to their base of older white Americans who did not go to college. You have to appear to be against all the sorts of things just to fit in with this group. Some of the Teaparty guys are doctors and lawyers but purposely make themselves look like bubba so they can fit in better with the 700 Club crowd.

Tom Joad 07-30-2014 11:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by donquixote99 (Post 233641)
There no doubt that the cover, with it's smug caricature black man and the big type "SMARTER THAN THOU," is consciously punching a big button for that portion of their readership that has 'superior to blacks' as a tenet of their identity. They are working racial resentment as well as anti-intellectual resentment here.

Exactly.

What I did in my post was to articulate in plain language what that cover is intended to say in code and innuendo.

donquixote99 07-30-2014 12:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nailer (Post 233642)
Many American conservatives are rolling over in their graves ...

I hope there are still some live ones who are aghast at what the once-respectable National Review has become.

noonereal 07-30-2014 12:34 PM

they call him a smug, intellectual bully because their base is stupid

piece-itpete 07-30-2014 12:47 PM

They seem a little miffed at him.

That said, just because he's smart doesn't mean he's right. And some of the comments show some people are smug. Just because 'ivory tower' gets played up doesn't mean it doesn't exist. Many progressives believe they know better than the people they'd like to control, of course.

Fact is, neither party wants their base too educated. Or perhaps it's correct-er-er to say, they want them educated with what they want them to be ;)

Pete

nailer 07-30-2014 12:56 PM

You're subversive.

piece-itpete 07-30-2014 01:00 PM

LOL thanks :D Let's start our own party.

Pete

Pio1980 07-30-2014 02:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by noonereal (Post 233691)
they call him a smug, intellectual bully because their base is stupid

And the Excrement in Fraudcasting guy is, what, a smug toxic ignoramus?

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Ike Bana 07-30-2014 05:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by piece-itpete (Post 233696)
They seem a little miffed at him.

That said, just because he's smart doesn't mean he's right. And some of the comments show some people are smug. Just because 'ivory tower' gets played up doesn't mean it doesn't exist. Many progressives believe they know better than the people they'd like to control, of course.

Fact is, neither party wants their base too educated. Or perhaps it's correct-er-er to say, they want them educated with what they want them to be ;)

Pete

All well and good right up to the point where somebody wants to teach Genesis (or some other bible stuff) to a public school classroom full of kids in place of some of the time the kids could be receiveing information developed from actual scientific method as opposed to a fable. Smug or not. Right or not. Progressive or not. Backward or not. One belongs in church, the other belongs in science class.

Excuse me Dr. Tyson...which day was it that God created the heavens?:rolleyes:

Tom Joad 07-31-2014 12:19 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sClOP52DAig

piece-itpete 07-31-2014 12:28 PM

Skepticism is 100% part of scientific method. Far better than teaching blind allegiance to pet theories in Science class.

Pete

Tom Joad 07-31-2014 12:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by piece-itpete (Post 233849)
Skepticism is 100% part of scientific method. Far better than teaching blind allegiance to pet theories in Science class.

Pete

That's some classic projection you're trying to pull off Pete.

Blind Allegiance to pet theories is a hallmark of the right.

nailer 08-01-2014 09:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by piece-itpete (Post 233701)
LOL thanks :D Let's start our own party.

Pete

A party of subversives might just save the nation.

nailer 08-01-2014 09:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom Joad (Post 233854)
That's some classic projection you're trying to pull off Pete.

Blind Allegiance to pet theories is a hallmark of the right.

And the left. Therein lies the rub. Both political poles are entrenched and attrition is their strategy.

finnbow 08-01-2014 09:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by piece-itpete (Post 233849)
Skepticism is 100% part of scientific method. Far better than teaching blind allegiance to pet theories in Science class.

Pete

That's some high quality double-talk, Pete.

Tom Joad 08-01-2014 11:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nailer (Post 234059)
And the left. Therein lies the rub. Both political poles are entrenched and attrition is their strategy.

The old false equivalency canard. Another telltale sign of the undercover bagger.

piece-itpete 08-01-2014 11:23 AM

Only the best Finn.

But it's actually triple talk, which means it's the same as single talk but for fancy folks :p

Is everyone on board with final entropy? If not you're a wanker, a luddite, and you're poisoning children. Oops, wait a minute...

Pete

donquixote99 08-01-2014 01:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by piece-itpete (Post 234070)
Only the best Finn.

But it's actually triple talk, which means it's the same as single talk but for fancy folks :p

Is everyone on board with final entropy? If not you're a wanker, a luddite, and you're poisoning children. Oops, wait a minute...

Pete

Final entropy is a hoax. I'm definitely a heat-death-of-the-universe skeptic.

piece-itpete 08-01-2014 01:29 PM

Think of the children!! :eek:

Actually the space/time fabric of the universe will be ripped apart by use/overuse of warp drive. Not content to destroy a planet, the humans have to muck up the entire universe.

Seriously I recently heard one guy say (there's legitimacy for you!) some scientists now believe the universe is more unstable at the quantum level then 'we' originally thought.

'Have a nice day' :D

Pete

donquixote99 08-01-2014 01:36 PM

There you are. Quantum instability puts the lie to the entropy establishment! Like, if there's anything final entropy is, it's stable....

piece-itpete 08-01-2014 01:39 PM

The fools!

:p

Pete


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