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Tom Joad 07-17-2014 12:57 PM

Which Is Worse - Government or Corporate Bureaucracy?
 
Pick your poison.

http://truth-out.org/opinion/item/24...te-bureaucracy

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Libertarians have been saying for a long, long time that if we just get rid of government, everything will run a whole lot better.

But if you get rid of government, corporations step in to fill the gap left by government.

And the truth is, corporate bureaucracy, the kind of bureaucracy people have to deal with every day when they try to do something as simple as pay their credit card bill is just as bad - or even worse - than any government bureaucracy.
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finnbow 07-17-2014 01:03 PM

No shit. Try to straighten out a billing question or cancelling service with Comcast.

icenine 07-17-2014 01:56 PM

At least the government does not try to get rid of the pensions.

Tom Joad 07-17-2014 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by icenine (Post 231321)
At least the government does not try to get rid of the pensions.


And at least we have the illusion of being able to vote the bastards out if we don't like the way things are being done.

barbara 07-17-2014 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by icenine (Post 231321)
At least the government does not try to get rid of the pensions.



Try telling that to City of Stockton employees.... Things are still in litigation, but it doesn't look good for them.

http://www.fresnobee.com/2014/07/13/...t-pension.html

icenine 07-17-2014 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by barbara (Post 231331)
Try telling that to City of Stockton employees.... Things are still in litigation, but it doesn't look good for them.

http://www.fresnobee.com/2014/07/13/...t-pension.html

Sorry Barbara.....

I project from the Federal Level. At least Stockton was accidental? I mean no one forsaw the decline of their tax base...

BlueStreak 07-17-2014 04:00 PM

Both.

Dave

Rajoo 07-17-2014 04:25 PM

AT&T and FedEx are two of the worst companies that I have had to deal with.
Dealing with government agencies may be slow and deliberate, but there will be a resolution. With large corporations the only ending is an NFW.

Pio1980 07-17-2014 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by BeamOn (Post 231346)
AT&T and FedEx are two of the worst companies that I have had to deal with.
Dealing with government agencies may be slow and deliberate, but there will be a resolution. With large corporations the only ending is an NFW.

My SO works for FedEx, tell me about it.

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barbara 07-17-2014 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by icenine (Post 231333)
Sorry Barbara.....



I project from the Federal Level. At least Stockton was accidental? I mean no one forsaw the decline of their tax base...


Might have been accidental.... But, in my opinion, it was just stupidity.

Doesn't affect me.... I'm not a city employee.

ebacon 07-17-2014 10:09 PM

People are people. They will do what people do. It matters not whether a corporate flag or a state flag flies in their front yard.

That's my opinion.

whell 07-18-2014 10:03 AM

We all have our customer service horror stories. Those stories have gravity and an individual who has a poor customer service experience tends to re-tell those stories to friends, neighbors, family, etc. Unfortunately its the good service stories that don't get retold as much. Many of us are predisposed to retell bad service stories more than the good service stories: sort of like how bad news tends to travel faster than good news.

As far as good service, anyone ever been into an Apple store? Typically I walk out with a very good experience, even with how crowded it tends to be in those stores. Apple isn't a small company by any means, but they've learned how to elevate the customer experience and maintain a loyal customer base. Disney? Not small either, but certainly a benchmark of creating a memorable customer experience.

Tom Joad 07-18-2014 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by whell (Post 231467)
We all have our customer service horror stories. Those stories have gravity and an individual who has a poor customer service experience tends to re-tell those stories to friends, neighbors, family, etc. Unfortunately its the good service stories that don't get retold as much. Many of us are predisposed to retell bad service stories more than the good service stories: sort of like how bad news tends to travel faster than good news.

So what?

That goes for government too.

I have had excellent service from the government with a few exceptions.

And I trust them far more than I trust a big multi-national corporation whose only concern is how much revenue they can wring out of me at the least cost to them.

piece-itpete 07-18-2014 10:11 AM

Me and a friend transferred the title to a motorcycle back and forth a few times to get temp tags when I was a teen.

Every 5-6 years I get a call from the State asking abou the taxes they decided I owed them as they think it wasn't a 'gift'. Every time I explain this to them and they say 'oh, ok. No problem. We'll close this, forget about it.'

Then 5 or 6 years later.....

Funny but I keep thinking one of these days I'll get hauled in to the state tax authority. The huge difference between business and government is, government has the barrel of a gun.

Pete

finnbow 07-18-2014 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by piece-itpete (Post 231471)
Me and a friend transferred the title to a motorcycle back and forth a few times to get temp tags when I was a teen.

Every 5-6 years I get a call from the State asking abou the taxes they decided I owed them as they think it wasn't a 'gift'. Every time I explain this to them and they say 'oh, ok. No problem. We'll close this, forget about it.'

Then 5 or 6 years later.....

Funny but I keep thinking one of these days I'll get hauled in to the state tax authority. The huge difference between business and government is, government has the barrel of a gun.

Pete

Bullshit. The DMV didn't show up at your house with guns drawn.:rolleyes:

piece-itpete 07-18-2014 10:26 AM

Not the DMV - but if the state taxing authority takes the case, they certainly could - no bs neccesary. The law has the barrel of the gun behind it.

Pete

Tom Joad 07-18-2014 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by piece-itpete (Post 231471)
Me and a friend transferred the title to a motorcycle back and forth a few times to get temp tags when I was a teen.

Every 5-6 years I get a call from the State asking abou the taxes they decided I owed them as they think it wasn't a 'gift'. Every time I explain this to them and they say 'oh, ok. No problem. We'll close this, forget about it.'

Then 5 or 6 years later.....

Funny but I keep thinking one of these days I'll get hauled in to the state tax authority. The huge difference between business and government is, government has the barrel of a gun.

Pete

The direct deposits of my state retirement and my social security are always in my account right on time. If the pay date falls on a weekend or a Holiday it gets deposited early on the day before.

I had a private account with Nationwide that I set up to pay me on the first of the month. It never got deposited before the 5th, and was sometimes as late as the 10th if a Holiday or weekend was involved. I finally just got tired of it and took my money out of there and used it to pay off my mortgage. Should have done that it the first place. It was worth the hit I took on taxes.

Tom Joad 07-18-2014 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by piece-itpete (Post 231487)
Not the DMV - but if the state taxing authority takes the case, they certainly could - no bs neccesary. The law has the barrel of the gun behind it.

Pete

The DMV is the one exception.

Government service at the DMV sucks the big one.

whell 07-18-2014 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Tom Joad (Post 231470)
I have had excellent service from the government with a low exceptions.

Fixed it for you...

Tom Joad 07-18-2014 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by whell (Post 231498)
Fixed it for you...

Listen up asshole, because I'm only going to say this once.

I don't fuck with other people's posts.

And if you ever fuck with one of mine again I will declare all out war on your ass.

whell 07-18-2014 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Tom Joad (Post 231500)
Listen up asshole, because I'm only going to say this once.

I don't fuck with other people's posts.

And if you ever fuck with one of mine again I will declare all out war on your ass.

You wanna be king of your own little sandbox, kid? Sounds like fun.

piece-itpete 07-18-2014 12:01 PM

I just had a conversation about DMV service with a DMV clerk two weeks ago. It used to be practically an all day thing, but now here in Ohio it's like going to a gas station or for more complex things a bank, it's fast.

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Originally Posted by whell (Post 231508)
You wanna be queen of your own little kitty litter box, baby goat? Sounds terrible.

Don't hurt me whell :D

Pete


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