Why the GOP is and will continue to be the party of white people
 

In order to really get a handle on today's Republican Party you need to understand the Southern Strategy and how it has impacted the party and the nation. This article does a pretty good job of it IMO.

http://www.newrepublic.com/article/1...-white-people#



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Math isn't their strong suit.

As a Foul Noise blonde pundit pointed out to Karl Rove when he melted down over her calling Ohio for Obama in November 2012.
"Is this the math that Republicans use to make themselves feel better?"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9TwuR0jCavk&feature=kp

I think that smart Republicans (a dying breed, it seems) realize the pickle they're in. However, trying to appeal to people other than southern rednecks (i.e., blacks, Hispanics, gays ...) will alienate their solid redneck base. For every voter they win in these new constituency, they'll lose an alienated, resentful redneck. With their Mississippi primary fiasco, it seems they may lose the 'Baggers without gaining the blacks. Serves them right.

It's true.

They are impaled on the horns of a dilemma.

And I'm lovin every minute of it.

Because after all, they are only getting what they deserve for making a conscious decision to actively court the white racist vote.

Here's a video of a panel discussion of the article in the OP.

Note what the author says beginning at 3:48 into the video.

"If you are the party of self reliance and pulling yourself up by your bootstraps, and 75% of Asian Americans don't vote for you, you have a problem"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WesapV_tiv0

Excellent article, thanks.

I would also point out that, once again, it highlights the need for the Executive Branch of the federal government to circumvent corrupt, asshole-ish state officials and step in to protect the safety and well-being of American citizens. Ike was right to take this action as was JFK in 1961. In both instances state governments wished to preserve "traditions" that were downright evil and could only be overcome by superior force. I can only imagine why certain folks would like to break up this capability. Just what is it they seek the "freedom from federal interference" to do? Their railing against the Civil Rights Act, child labor laws and anything pro-labor are strong and obvious indicators to my mind. They seek the "freedom" to re-establish once vanquished tyrannies, foisted upon individuals by corrupt state governments.

"Then, within weeks, an authentic crisis arose. Arkansas's governor, Orval Faubus, defied a federal court order to desegregate Little Rock's Central High School, bringing in the National Guard to surround the school and block a group of black pupils from entering, while a shrieking mob threatened violence. Unable to compromise with Faubus, Eisenhower federalized the Guardsmen and also sent in 1,000 paratroopers from the 101st Airborne Division. For the first time since Reconstruction, U.S. government troops, armed with bayonets, "occupied" a state in the old Confederacy."

Dave

Because they are racist.

That was an easy question. :D

In spite of all the evidence that points to that conclusion, you are not allowed to say that because then you are playing the race card.

Right wing political correctness dictates that they respond to any calling out of obvious racist behavior with a counter allegation that the only reason you see racism is because you, yourself, are a racist.

I wonder if it works the same way with say....animal abuse? Catch a Republican beating his dog, you are obviously the animal abuser, because as every six year old knows "..It takes one to know one, you big dummy!":rolleyes:

Dave

Most I know are proud to say it too! Lets not forget the Homophobes in there.



Barney

You left out 'dumb' between of and white

That's one of the better segments I've ever seen on MSNBC. The chart at 1:10 should scare the shit outta leadership in the GOP...although I'm sure they've been aware of these numbers for a long time now and it doesn't seem to get through their thick skulls, now does it? Same with Tanenhaus's comments...as you noted, the most stinging of them.

So...I've been beating this drum for a while now, perhaps it's pretty redundant at this point, but I just have to say it again...
It's not just the '08 and '12 elections. The GOP has won a single popular vote in the last 6 Presidential elections. And that one only because of Cheney's fear mongering success in scaring the crap out of the gullible electorate in '04 with images of swarthy mustachioed terrorists with backpacks fulla gelignite under every bed.

They've lost 5 of the last 6 popular votes because there's been a demographics shift. The urban voters (and in particular the groups noted in the chart) have had it with the GOP's nauseating basic social platform of intrusion into women's health, intrusion into medical research, intrusion into public school science classes, intrusion into worker's organization, intrusion into pretty much everything that should be left to discussion in church and not in the legislative body.

But somehow with more of this shit from Boehner...it's pretty clear nothing is getting through to them. It's a real goddamn shame.:cool:

Wow, two white bashing threads going at the same time. I guess you have to do something to hold on to the black vote when they start to see the Dems not only haven't done jack for them, but are actually making things worse.

I'm sure you're an expert on the minority experience in America Wasilla.

Just like all white wingers are.

That's why you get such an outpouring of support from them.

By all means keep on keeping on.

You're doing a heckuva job.

If the shoe fits....


[QUOTE=Wasillaguy;230187} I guess you have to do something to hold on to the black vote when they start to see the Dems not only haven't done jack for them, but are actually making things worse.[/QUOTE]

It's not just black folks that are rejecting the stupid old white people message of the GOP. It's pretty much every gender, race and age group outside of stupid old white people. (As opposed to smart, thoughtful and considerate old white people like most of those on this forum.) But you're stuck on black people for some reason. Maybe the suggestion hits a little too close to home, eh?

So what?

I'm white.

http://i843.photobucket.com/albums/z...Earth/nc22.jpg

My eyes! :p

It's becoming obvious here in Cleveland, they wanted school reform in the city and had to turn to the GOP because the city Dem machine backed the NEA of course. But they care for the kids.

Will the minorities here now flock to the GOP en mass? No. But many won't forget, and statewide a few votes go a long way.

Pete

The GOP's racism is a lot like drug addition in that as long as they remain in denial they will never be able to overcome it. Like any problem, the first step to curing it is to admit you have a problem. They can't seem to do that. They are always pointing the finger somewhere else. As long as they keep doing that they are doomed.

I'm not in denial. 2 drugs + 2 drugs = 4 drugs. I accept that.

GOP loses the popularity contest yet controls the house and governorships.

http://library.cqpress.com/elections...-84193-2523552

Gotta give the Devil's their due, they know how to game the system.

That's why they have far more political power than their numbers would suggest.

Notice how they also pick relatively young Supreme court judges, so that they can inflict their right wing agenda on the country for decades?

But their time is coming.

Eventually nasty old white people are going to be so far in the minority that no amount of gaming and gerrymandering will be able to save them from the fate they deserve.

What worries me is the thought that it is getting through to 'them.' With the result being to foment and encourage militas, and spread the meme that the federal government is actually a deadly enemy conspiring to destroy 'real Americans,' etc. They may be 'preping' the option to take power by non-electoral means.

The teacher union bashing is not going anywhere because people with kids in school know that more often than not it is teachers buying the kids supplies out of their own pockets. To much of the taxes we pay for the schools go to needless administrators who sit around dreaming up dumbass zero tolerance rules.:rolleyes:

Cantor gerrymandered his district and lost, maybe it will happen in more districts.

A little improvement in Florida yesterday.

"Florida judge ruled the state's congressional district map invalid Thursday night, saying it violates constitutional provisions that require fair districts and instead favors Republicans.
In a scathing opinion, Leon County Circuit Judge Terry P. Lewis ruled in Tallahassee that the Legislature's Republican political consultants had "made a mockery" of the redistricting process, tainting it with "partisan intent.""
http://www.latimes.com/nation/politi...710-story.html

Thanks for that. A little good news from the old home state.

My pleasure.

What white bashing? The threads in question bash the GOP for it's continuing and growing talent for alienating any possible non-white support, but I defy you to find one little example of anyone running down white people....

Maybe he read that post where I said it took me 48 years to figure out I was a Latino.

If it took you 48 years then you must be one of those Lilly white Latinos like Emilio Estevez. That doesn't count.

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I suppose that's a possibility. Reckon how many Americans are really as pissed off about Waco and Weavers as FOX tries to suggest, eh? I would hope it would be a significant minority.

But let's say full scale militia/wacky-prepper revolt breaks out and the government, fearing accusations from FOX of over-reaction, gets all complacent about it. That's when whatever social conscience I have remaining about what will become of this country goes south for good. That's when we take advantage of the blonde's dual citizenship and off we go to some quiet corner of the EU where the healthcare is great, the weather is great, the neighborhood is great, the food is great, and where, for the most part, anti-government headcases are looked upon as the miscreants they are.

You don't get how civil violence works. There would not be complacency, there would be violence in response to violence, with both sides swelling in power as each 'justifies' the other. Did you see that pic someone posted of the 'Brown Berets' looking all paramilitary?

You think the country is polarized now? We haven't seen anything. Of course, all this just makes your thought of bolting all the more sensible.

I really like your signature.

At least in Mississippi, they recognized that if this Tea Party were in charge, their roots would definitely have been severed. I hope this is the beginning of change and the left begins to take care of the roots.

I take it you know the source of my avatar and signature. If not, it's from the wonderful film Being There.

I did not know that but now I think I will watch the film.

I may have seen it many years ago but I can't remember. If I can't remember, it means it is time to see it again.

Great film, I believe Peter Sellers' best (with great performances from Jack Warden and Shirley MacLaine). Really funny and replete with social and political commentary/satire.

http://www.allmovie.com/movie/being-there-v4708

I have Netflix, therefore, I know where I will be tonight. Looks like a really good movie. Thank you.

IMHO I get how civil violence works just fine.