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Tom Joad 07-03-2014 02:24 PM

5 Ways The GOP’s Obstruction Is Unprecedented
 
I'm getting sick and tired of the GOP getting away with deliberately sabotaging the country and then blaming it on Obama and the Democrats.
This shit should be front and center in every media outlet there is, instead of being buried like it is. We should be making these bastards famous.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mOzOdj7JmfE

Quote:

The central fallacy of politics is “both sides do it.”

Both sides increasingly delay judicial appointments when the other party is in power. Both sides use procedures like reconciliation in the Senate to get what they want (though Republicans used it in the case of the Bush tax breaks to add trillions to the deficit, the exact opposite point of reconciliation). Both sides operate by prioritizing their donors’ needs over those of average citizens.

But the clouds of gray inevitable in a political process that has from our founding required ugly compromise are helping shade the unprecedented measures Senate Republicans began taking when the Democrats took over the Senate, and escalated into overdrive as President Obama assumed office.

From the night of the president’s inauguration, the GOP has plotted to deny Obama any successes, even as the country languished in a recession made worse by eight years of policies that had the effect of purposely exacerbating income inequality.

The tactics the GOP is using are all reminiscent of previous ways smaller-scale obstruction has taken place. What’s new is the unyielding consistency and a complete disconnect with the wishes of all except the most vocal part of their base that enforces extremism by threatening primary challenges. This is how you get a House that can barely pass a farm bill, even when all the “extraneous pieces” like help for 47 million Americans who rely on food stamps are stripped out.

The Washington Post‘s Greg Sargent calls it “sabotage governing.” The New York Times simply says that the House GOP is engaged in a “Refusal to Govern.” Whatever it is, it’s something that has never been seen in modern American politics.

Here are five ways the GOP’s obstruction is unprecedented.
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donquixote99 07-03-2014 02:45 PM

Ze link she is broken...

Tom Joad 07-03-2014 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by donquixote99 (Post 229118)
Ze link she is broken...

Thanks.

I think I have it fixed now.

merrylander 07-03-2014 03:08 PM

To think that in another day such behavior would have been dealt with as per Section 4 of Article II. Especially Graham and Ryan, McConnell should simply be forcibly retired

Then we need to amend the Constitution and remove that advise and consent idiocy except for the courts (but many of our high courts could stand a good clean out.)

whell 07-03-2014 03:15 PM

...more whining from the Left.:rolleyes:

merrylander 07-03-2014 03:28 PM

Did someone just fart?

Tom Joad 07-03-2014 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by merrylander (Post 229132)
Did someone just fart?

He's just buying time until the right wing bullshit response that he will get paid to post arrives in his in-box.

Net a little slow this morning Whelly-boy?

donquixote99 07-03-2014 04:39 PM

Yes, read the piece.

Thesis very correct, and I would add that the level of resources going into defaming this president is probably a new record as well.

MrPots 07-03-2014 04:45 PM

I'd love to see Obama go all medieval on Boehner's ass......

bobabode 07-03-2014 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by mrpots (Post 229142)
i'd love to see obama go all medieval on boehner's ass......

It's about time he starts acting like the angry black man that we elected him to be. PHuck 'em.

bobabode 07-03-2014 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by whell (Post 229131)
...more whining from the Left.:rolleyes:

Sez the 'bagger dude with the floppy green ears. :rolleyes:

http://www.politicalchat.org/image.p...ine=1400101340

Tom Joad 07-03-2014 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by MrPots (Post 229142)
I'd love to see Obama go all medieval on Boehner's ass......

The problem is he can't legally.

And the right wing propaganda machine is too good about putting out lies so people vote against their own interests.

Plus the Republicans have the house Gerrymandered to where they don't need a majority of the popular vote to get a majority of the seats.

And the Senate gives the same number of votes (2) to sparsely populated red states like Wyoming with less than 600,000 people as it does to big blue states like California with 35 million people.

So overall the right wingers have far more power in congress than their numbers would suggest.

Then, if the Dems do get a working majority the billionaires like the Koch brothers step in and buy a few seats.

What a Democratic president really needs is an informed electorate that will give a Democratic President the kind of majorities that Roosevelt and Johnson had.

In 1937 under Roosevelt there were 75 Democratic Senators and 333 Democrats in the House.

And in 1965 under Johnson there were 68 Democratic Senators and 295 Democrats in the House.

http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0774721.html

It's no mistake that it was during this time that real meaningful progressive legislation like Social Security, Medicare, and Civil Rights got passed.

Legislation that has helped, not hindered the country.

That's what we need again.

merrylander 07-04-2014 06:03 AM

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Originally Posted by bobabode (Post 229147)
Sez the 'bagger dude with the floppy green ears. :rolleyes:

http://www.politicalchat.org/image.p...ine=1400101340

Somebody give him a big bowl of nits and sit him in the corner.

Oerets 07-04-2014 08:06 AM

"They want to drown the captain and are prepared to sink the ship to do so."

Wm J Clinton #42

Pretty much sums it up.




Barney

icenine 07-04-2014 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Tom Joad (Post 229155)
The problem is he can't legally.

And the right wing propaganda machine is too good about putting out lies so people vote against their own interests.

Plus the Republicans have the house Gerrymandered to where they don't need a majority of the popular vote to get a majority of the seats.

And the Senate gives the same number of votes (2) to sparsely populated red states like Wyoming with less than 600,000 people as it does to big blue states like California with 35 million people.

So overall the right wingers have far more power in congress than their numbers would suggest.

Then, if the Dems do get a working majority the billionaires like the Koch brothers step in and buy a few seats.

What a Democratic president really needs is an informed electorate that will give a Democratic President the kind of majorities that Roosevelt and Johnson had.

In 1937 under Roosevelt there were 75 Democratic Senators and 333 Democrats in the House.

And in 1965 under Johnson there were 68 Democratic Senators and 295 Democrats in the House.

http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0774721.html

It's no mistake that it was during this time that real meaningful progressive legislation like Social Security, Medicare, and Civil Rights got passed.

Legislation that has helped, not hindered the country.

That's what we need again.

On Morning Joe yesterday morning there were saying how much better LBJ was than Obama in getting stuff done in Congress....everyone forgets the huge majority that he had in both Houses and that he had been in Congress since the 40s....Obama is less experienced legislatively, does not have a majority, and this time the Dixiecrats are in the opposite party....

merrylander 07-04-2014 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by icenine (Post 229228)
On Morning Joe yesterday morning there were saying how much better LBJ was than Obama in getting stuff done in Congress....everyone forgets the huge majority that he had in both Houses and that he had been in Congress since the 40s....Obama is less experienced legislatively, does not have a majority, and this time the Dixiecrats are in the opposite party....

And to be perfectly frank getting Democrats behind something is closer to herding cats than leadership.:rolleyes:


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