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whell 07-02-2014 12:58 PM

Newspaper: Sorry we endorsed Obama
 
This is priceless:

Sometimes, you have to admit you're wrong.

And, we were wrong.

We said that things couldn't get much worse after the sub par presidency of George W. Bush.

But, President Barack Obama's administration has us yearning for the good ol' days when we were at least winning battles in Iraq.


They go on to list some of the Obama gang's screw ups, then conclude with:

These are all signs — none of them definitive on their own, necessarily. However, when taken in completely, these demonstrate a disturbing trend of incompetence and failure. It's not just that Americans are in a sour mood about national politics. That's probably part of it. Instead, Obama has become another in a line of presidents long on rhetoric and hopelessly short on action.

Obama's hope and change have left liberals and conservatives alike hoping for real change, not just more lofty rhetoric.


Read all about it: http://billingsgazette.com/news/opin...f460fcf87.html

finnbow 07-02-2014 01:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whell (Post 228814)
This is priceless:

Sometimes, you have to admit you're wrong.

And, we were wrong.

We said that things couldn't get much worse after the sub par presidency of George W. Bush.

But, President Barack Obama's administration has us yearning for the good ol' days when we were at least winning battles in Iraq.

.....

The bolded comment alone is enough to dismiss this piece out of hand.

Ike Bana 07-02-2014 01:46 PM

Wow, the Billings Gazette. Next thing ya know it will be the NY Times and the Chicago Tribune.:rolleyes:

whell 07-02-2014 02:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by finnbow (Post 228819)
The bolded comment alone is enough to dismiss this piece out of hand.

Maybe not. It looks like it might be the start of a trend.

"President Barack Obama is the worst president since World War II, 33 percent of American voters say in a Quinnipiac University National Poll released today."

http://www.quinnipiac.edu/news-and-e...ReleaseID=2056

"Over the span of 69 years of American history and 12 presidencies, President Barack Obama finds himself with President George W. Bush at the bottom of the popularity barrel," said Tim Malloy, assistant director of the Quinnipiac University Poll.

"Would Mitt have been a better fit? More voters in hindsight say yes."


So he's worse than Bush and Nixon? Man, you gotta work pretty hard to sink that low I suspect. :p

Ike Bana 07-02-2014 02:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whell (Post 228838)
Maybe not. It looks like it might be the start of a trend.

"President Barack Obama is the worst president since World War II, 33 percent of American voters say in a Quinnipiac University National Poll released today."

Well, that's about right. It's always about a third of the voters who think the current president is the worst in history. Another third think he's the greatest, and the middle third are too busy watching the NBA finals to spend any time on it. Of course when George was finishing up it was closer to 50%...particularly after he turned on his loyal base and pushed through the TARP.

finnbow 07-02-2014 02:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whell (Post 228838)
Maybe not. It looks like it might be the start of a trend.

"President Barack Obama is the worst president since World War II, 33 percent of American voters say in a Quinnipiac University National Poll released today."

http://www.quinnipiac.edu/news-and-e...ReleaseID=2056

"Over the span of 69 years of American history and 12 presidencies, President Barack Obama finds himself with President George W. Bush at the bottom of the popularity barrel," said Tim Malloy, assistant director of the Quinnipiac University Poll.

"Would Mitt have been a better fit? More voters in hindsight say yes."


So he's worse than Bush and Nixon? Man, you gotta work pretty hard to sink that low I suspect. :p

I'm no Obama fanboy, but these polls have no real meaning at this point. Presidents always somehow look better retrospectively. Even Dubya has somehow succeeded in rehabilitating his image. That said, somehow the Congressional GOP has succeeded in projecting its own incompetence upon everybody else in government, including Obama. It has been an objective of theirs all along and I suppose they've succeeded.

icenine 07-02-2014 02:35 PM

Whell take it from one who has been to Iraq:

You and the Billings Gazette don't have an effing clue about Iraq.

piece-itpete 07-02-2014 02:44 PM

It was stable, and now it isn't? At least as far as bombings etc go:

http://dailynewsheadline.com/wp-cont...s_v8_624gr.gif

More and more whispers among my leftie friends about Obama. But hey, at least he's better than Bush. Isn't that damning with faint praise? ;)

Pete

merrylander 07-02-2014 03:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by piece-itpete (Post 228869)
It was stable, and now it isn't? At least as far as bombings etc go:

http://dailynewsheadline.com/wp-cont...s_v8_624gr.gif

More and more whispers among my leftie friends about Obama. But hey, at least he's better than Bush. Isn't that damning with faint praise? ;)

Pete

So you think, I'll take Robbin's word first. And frankly the media has been on his case after the first 100 days.

bobabode 07-02-2014 03:25 PM

National trends start in Billings, Montana? :rolleyes: Poor Whell thinks Montana is a suburb of Los Angeles.

Ike Bana 07-02-2014 03:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by piece-itpete (Post 228869)
It was stable, and now it isn't? At least as far as bombings etc go:

http://dailynewsheadline.com/wp-cont...s_v8_624gr.gif

More and more whispers among my leftie friends about Obama. But hey, at least he's better than Bush. Isn't that damning with faint praise? ;)

Pete

Y'know Pete...there's more to it than that. Back during the '08 primaries I was telling anybody who would listen that Obama was no reformer...nobody was much interested. Not even you right wingers because my basis didn't include Rev. Wright or Bill Ayers as part of my analysis. So there were whispers then, and whispers when he began backing down and trying to negotiate with the GOP when you knew they were just going to fuck him and not even give him the courtesy of a reach around. When he didn't have us out of Iraq when he said he would we were whispering. He's still got us in Afghanistan, we're still whispering. He wouldn't stop the feds from busting legal medical marijuana vendors and cancer patients...more whispering. There wasn't a single bankster indicted by the DOJ...even more whispering.

So pete...the more and more whispering is nothing new. (As opposed to you guys sucking George Bush's ass no matter what abominable shit he pulled for 8 years.)

But there's more to it because it doesn't matter which vote whore from which party is in the office, pete. The only thing that matters to a lot of us is the despicable base that the GOP runs on year after year...particularly the social issues. So we're whispering about Obama, and we'll be whispering about Hillary or whoever we get next time...but they won't be sticking their noses into women's reproductive organs...they won't be trying to shut down embryonic stem cell research...they won't be trying to have Genesis taught in public school science class...they won't be fighting gay adoption...they won't be pandering to teabagger idiots...the list goes on and on. I won't be voting for any Republican politician until something changes drastically with the GOP.

Whispering about disappointments in Obama means pretty much nothing to me.

finnbow 07-02-2014 03:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ike Bana (Post 228889)
Y'know Pete...there's more to it than that. Back during the '08 primaries I was telling anybody who would listen that Obama was no reformer...nobody was much interested. Not even you right wingers because my basis didn't include Rev. Wright or Bill Ayers as part of my analysis. So there were whispers then, and whispers when he began backing down and trying to negotiate with the GOP when you knew they were just going to fuck him and not even give him the courtesy of a reach around. When he didn't have us out of Iraq when he said he would we were whispering. He's still got us in Afghanistan, we're still whispering. He wouldn't stop the feds from busting legal medical marijuana vendors and cancer patients...more whispering. There wasn't a single bankster indicted by the DOJ...even more whispering.

So pete...the more and more whispering is nothing new. (As opposed to you guys sucking George Bush's ass no matter what abominable shit he pulled for 8 years.)

But there's more to it because it doesn't matter which vote whore from which party is in the office, pete. The only thing that matters to a lot of us is the despicable base that the GOP runs on year after year...particularly the social issues. So we're whispering about Obama, and we'll be whispering about Hillary or whoever we get next time...but they won't be sticking their noses into women's reproductive organs...they won't be trying to shut down embryonic stem cell research...they won't be trying to have Genesis taught in public school science class...they won't be fighting gay adoption...they won't be pandering to teabagger idiots...the list goes on and on. I won't be voting for any Republican politician until something changes drastically with the GOP.

Whispering about disappointments in Obama means pretty much nothing to me.

Well played.

Ike Bana 07-02-2014 04:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by finnbow (Post 228890)
Well played.

Aw shucks man.

And I'll tell ya what. With all the pissing and moaning about Cruz, Rubio, Vitter, Coburn, Graham, Hatch and Coryn...the worst of them, the absolute most despicably worst of them all in my book is Kelly Ayotte.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4E_3h7IX7l4

Just absolutely disgusting two-faced doubletalk bullshit.

piece-itpete 07-03-2014 10:33 AM

You're saying the left hasn't 'sucked Obama's ass' for 8 years? Agreed, it hasn't been 8 years yet.

Maybe you though truthfully.

And to say well at least the left says nice things makes it better?

Pete

merrylander 07-03-2014 11:55 AM

No idea which newspapers you read or news programs but the so called liberal media has been less than kind.

bobabode 07-03-2014 12:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by piece-itpete (Post 229043)
You're saying the left hasn't 'sucked Obama's ass' for 8 years? Agreed, it hasn't been 8 years yet.

Maybe you though truthfully.

And to say well at least the left says nice things makes it better?

Pete

What a crapload. Just look at the bastardized version of the ACA we wound up with because of all those blue dogs in congress. :rolleyes:

icenine 07-03-2014 12:31 PM

What is really cool is every potential Republican candidate is a joke. And no Rand Paul will not run because he will not have the courage to leave his Senate seat.

Tom Joad 07-06-2014 12:30 PM

The Billings Gazette!

Oh My!

I guess we'll have to subtract Montana's 3 electoral votes from Obama's total and award them to Romney.

Oh, wait.........

http://www.270towin.com/states/Montana

BlueStreak 07-06-2014 12:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whell (Post 228814)
This is priceless:

Sometimes, you have to admit you're wrong.

And, we were wrong.

We said that things couldn't get much worse after the sub par presidency of George W. Bush.

But, President Barack Obama's administration has us yearning for the good ol' days when we were at least winning battles in Iraq.


They go on to list some of the Obama gang's screw ups, then conclude with:

These are all signs — none of them definitive on their own, necessarily. However, when taken in completely, these demonstrate a disturbing trend of incompetence and failure. It's not just that Americans are in a sour mood about national politics. That's probably part of it. Instead, Obama has become another in a line of presidents long on rhetoric and hopelessly short on action.

Obama's hope and change have left liberals and conservatives alike hoping for real change, not just more lofty rhetoric.


Read all about it: http://billingsgazette.com/news/opin...f460fcf87.html

Montana.

Dave

BlueStreak 07-06-2014 12:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ike Bana (Post 228889)
Y'know Pete...there's more to it than that. Back during the '08 primaries I was telling anybody who would listen that Obama was no reformer...nobody was much interested. Not even you right wingers because my basis didn't include Rev. Wright or Bill Ayers as part of my analysis. So there were whispers then, and whispers when he began backing down and trying to negotiate with the GOP when you knew they were just going to fuck him and not even give him the courtesy of a reach around. When he didn't have us out of Iraq when he said he would we were whispering. He's still got us in Afghanistan, we're still whispering. He wouldn't stop the feds from busting legal medical marijuana vendors and cancer patients...more whispering. There wasn't a single bankster indicted by the DOJ...even more whispering.

So pete...the more and more whispering is nothing new. (As opposed to you guys sucking George Bush's ass no matter what abominable shit he pulled for 8 years.)

But there's more to it because it doesn't matter which vote whore from which party is in the office, pete. The only thing that matters to a lot of us is the despicable base that the GOP runs on year after year...particularly the social issues. So we're whispering about Obama, and we'll be whispering about Hillary or whoever we get next time...but they won't be sticking their noses into women's reproductive organs...they won't be trying to shut down embryonic stem cell research...they won't be trying to have Genesis taught in public school science class...they won't be fighting gay adoption...they won't be pandering to teabagger idiots...the list goes on and on. I won't be voting for any Republican politician until something changes drastically with the GOP.

Whispering about disappointments in Obama means pretty much nothing to me.

Word.

Dave

Tom Joad 07-06-2014 12:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by merrylander (Post 229078)
No idea which newspapers you read or news programs but the so called liberal media has been less than kind.

Exactly.

I wish I could pull up some of my old posts from the forum I was on when he caved in on the public option. I was all over him like stink on shit. So were most of us on the left.

VanishingPoi 07-06-2014 08:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whell (Post 228814)
This is priceless:

Sometimes, you have to admit you're wrong.

And, we were wrong.

We said that things couldn't get much worse after the sub par presidency of George W. Bush.

But, President Barack Obama's administration has us yearning for the good ol' days when we were at least winning battles in Iraq.


They go on to list some of the Obama gang's screw ups, then conclude with:

These are all signs — none of them definitive on their own, necessarily. However, when taken in completely, these demonstrate a disturbing trend of incompetence and failure. It's not just that Americans are in a sour mood about national politics. That's probably part of it. Instead, Obama has become another in a line of presidents long on rhetoric and hopelessly short on action.

Obama's hope and change have left liberals and conservatives alike hoping for real change, not just more lofty rhetoric.


Read all about it: http://billingsgazette.com/news/opin...f460fcf87.html

I am sorry, this newspaper asked me if I was buying furniture in the near future in order to access the opinion. Wow, they are real worthy! What's up wit dat?

VanishingPoi 07-06-2014 09:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by finnbow (Post 228819)
The bolded comment alone is enough to dismiss this piece out of hand.

I agree. I don't think it is a real news organization. What news agency would ask you fill out a questionnaire trying to sell you furniture for gods sake. I believe it to be a scam website.

donquixote99 07-06-2014 09:56 PM

I was asked if I drink vodka.

But they are a real newspaper, part of a giant media conglomerate of newspapers and sometimes TV that has been going broke a lot. Warren Buffet has been putting a lot on money into them of late.

They are profiling their readership's consumption intentions, to make advertising sales more profitable.

VanishingPoi 07-06-2014 10:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom Joad (Post 229507)
Exactly.

I wish I could pull up some of my old posts from the forum I was on when he caved in on the public option. I was all over him like stink on shit. So were most of us on the left.


Who is he?

BlueStreak 07-06-2014 10:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VanishingPoi (Post 229618)
Who is he?

Barrack Obama.

Dave

merrylander 07-07-2014 07:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by donquixote99 (Post 229617)
I was asked if I drink vodka.

But they are a real newspaper, part of a giant media conglomerate of newspapers and sometimes TV that has been going broke a lot. Warren Buffet has been putting a lot on money into them of late.

They are profiling their readership's consumption intentions, to make advertising sales more profitable.

The bulk of the media in this country is controlled by Disney, Time Warner, Newscorp, CBS and Comcast. Which one is the liberal?

piece-itpete 07-07-2014 12:29 PM

New Disney. Every time I hear they're redoing a classic I want to throw up - think 'The Hunchback' :o Everything has to be nicey-nice.

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlueStreak (Post 229503)
Montana.

Dave

Hey don't dis them! I'm moving there soon.

Pete

Tom Joad 07-07-2014 12:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by piece-itpete (Post 229688)

Hey don't dis them! I'm moving there soon.

Pete

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3rVqK8-DtTw

bobabode 07-07-2014 12:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by piece-itpete (Post 229688)
New Disney. Every time I hear they're redoing a classic I want to throw up - think 'The Hunchback' :o Everything has to be nicey-nice.



Hey don't dis them! I'm moving there soon.

Pete

Montana?

Rajoo 07-07-2014 12:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by piece-itpete (Post 229688)
New Disney. Every time I hear they're redoing a classic I want to throw up - think 'The Hunchback' :o Everything has to be nicey-nice.



Hey don't dis them! I'm moving there soon.

Pete

It's a red state so you will be safe and happy. And speed limits are seldom enforced. :)

piece-itpete 07-07-2014 12:46 PM

Yeah, I'm going to raise some crops. Haven't decided what yet.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DO_bKdRqkuQ

Tom, lol! (hack, wheeze) 3+ weeks with no Marlboro, it's killing me.

Pete

donquixote99 07-07-2014 01:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by piece-itpete (Post 229698)
Yeah, I'm going to raise some crops. Haven't decided what yet.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DO_bKdRqkuQ

Tom, lol! (hack, wheeze) 3+ weeks with no Marlboro, it's killing me.

Pete

RU serious?

piece-itpete 07-07-2014 01:19 PM

Only about smoking :)

Though I hear Montana is actually really nice.

Pete

donquixote99 07-07-2014 01:37 PM

Shucks. And i just found the prefect comic strip for you....

http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m...ps29667e86.gif

piece-itpete 07-07-2014 01:47 PM

LOL!

Pete


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